> On Dec 7, 2025, at 19:48, Charles via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > > has anyone in DSA criticized Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for illusions in her > Green New Deal?
I don't think so, and I think the DSA GND position was ratified at last year's convention, but I'm not sure. I have discovered that there are a large number of Green New Deal schemes, which are very unlike one another. What I tend to mean by "GND" is a form of Green Keynesianism like the legislation put forward in the US Congress by AOC and a Democratic-Party senator. That included a grid-replacement plan to create "millions of family-wage jobs." The socialist approach to creating jobs should be to reduce the workweek. Instead, most GNDs play by capitalism's rules and would create jobs by spurring GDP growth and growing capitalist economic surplus, which serves to accumulate wealth, douse social tensions, continue to disrupt planetary systems, kill more people each year, and drive other species of animals into extinction. And it won't work: There are trillions of dollars of oil and gas wealth in the ground and to-be-developed that get factored into the stock price of fossil-fuel companies. These firms have paid for exploration and already bought off the politicians to get the needed mineral rights to their finds. Development of those in-ground leases is going to accelerate greenhouse-gas emissions and blow past the deadly 1.5 or 2.0 degrees thresholds, viz. Ståle Holgersen. If those assets instead stay in the ground, then they are stranded; that stranding will cause capital to evaporate and likely trigger a large economic crisis. So we can replace the grid, go solar, wind or nuclear, and import $6k ecars from China, but the fossil-fuel industry is going to extract those trillions out of the ground regardless of legislation and policy, which trillions of dollars can certainly change. >From the economic growth standpoint, nuclear power is just as bad as fossil >fuels. There can be no "Socialist Case for Nuclear Power" until the >"Capitalist Case for Nuclear Power" no longer exists. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39661): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39661 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116655555/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
