Marv: I believe I have made my answers to these queries you pose to me before. But I agree they are both important and recurrent, so that is no problem. If I did not have responses to them in the article originally posted, it was because I thought we had made our views clear. Perhaps most crystallised in: https://mlrg.online/politics/zohran-mamdani-a-preliminary-marxist-leninist-assessment/
Nonetheless specific brief remarks on your queries - Marv you said : i) 1. “A Leninist party was and would again be necessary to lead a revolutionary crisis to a successful conclusion, and I don’t see much harm in the small Leninist groups recruiting cadre in preparation for that eventuality. But given the current level of political consciousness of the most advanced workers (such as those supporting Mamdani), they have remained on the margins during our lifetime.” https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/40056/ ( https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/40056/ ) My response - correct. There are lots of reasons for that which I will not re-hash unless further prompted. Only to say, that there is little doubt in my view, that the fall of socialism in the USSR after 1953 and the failure to resist imperialism in the Peoples Democracies - was a major reason for the renewed life in the moribund Western imperialisms. I do not deny also that the assessment that the hold on innovations for the bourgeoisie by the social relations was able to be overcome by further technical breakthroughs. Once more - it took about 4-500 year for the bourgeoisie to break thru' feudalism. The ground shakes, but when the. cataclysm really comes.... 2. Marv : ""The present contradictions in the system will have to sharpen to the point of collapse before the working class loses confidence in the possibility of its reform and moves towards revolutionary politics essentially on the basis of its own experiences in struggle.” https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/40115 My response - Isn't that was one of the messages in my view of the look-back at the view of M&E on organisations at my earlier note? See at: https://mlrg.online/history/views-of-marx-and-engels-on-revolutionary-organisations/ 3. Marv says : "A more appropriate model IMO which corresponds to the current level of class struggle is the Marxist study group or caucus, not unlike marxmail but active outside of social media.The fastest growing is the DSA which functions as a left social democratic caucus within the Democratic Party but which also independently recruits trade unionists and radicalizing youth to its ranks." https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39599 My response I have myself written for DSA when some young cmdes asked on Afghanistan, although I was surprised to be asked. But yes - they are a grouping not to be ignored as a potential source of new eager cmdes. But the constraints of their organisational thinking should not be minimised in my view. Some Marxist-Leninists may say it is a question of either-or. I have never adopted that viewpoint. Any Marxist know you have to be where the people are. But this is not the same as the crude "entryism" that was widely adopted at one stage by, i think it is entirely fair to say, many Trotskyist parties. Certainly in England with the Militant or even if I recall right the IMG and SWP. I cannot comment on the waffle in Canada - too little detail to hand. But all this was in sharp contrast to the applications of the then genuinely communist party (before its slide into revisionism) - the CPGB in its open application to the Labour Party. As M&E always said - be open about your independence. Meaning - your communism. H -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#40178): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/40178 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/117257520/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
