> On Feb 4, 2026, at 20:24, Charles via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lenin did welcome increased productiveness of labor – so that workers could > have a shorter day of direct labor: > > "…the Taylor system, properly controlled and intelligently applied by the > working people themselves, will serve as a reliable means of further reducing > the obligatory working day for the entire working population > –“The Immediate Tasks of the Soviet Government," 1918
But none of that ever happened, did it? Lenin's position was subsequently analyzed by Gramsci, who critiqued the core assumptions without naming Lenin, and later Harry Braverman criticized Lenin's adoption of Taylorism. Some writers see Stakhanovism as formally rejecting Taylorism while increasing its logic in Soviet workplaces. What makes this relevant to "productive forces wanting to be free" is Lenin's assumption that Taylorism represented the latest in capitalist scientific production techniques that should be applied, however critically, in Soviet production. Taylorism is an example of a capitalist productive force that is useless to a post-capitalist system for the reasons Gramsci explained. Mark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#40521): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/40521 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/117439078/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
