On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 10:58, Yury V. Zaytsev <y...@shurup.com> wrote: > Sebastian, if you are motivated and have time to do some serious work on mc, maybe we should talk about a vision first?
Thanks for the invite! Yes I'm motivated, I find it very entertaining to work on mc. I wish someone had taken the time instead to integrate the Lua fork by > mooffie. Unfortunately he wasn't up to maintaining his work of a genius > (no kidding) and we don't have resources to take it over. I think that he had one initial mistake, if I can say so – he scripted mc and not mcedit. I think that it's an editor that can gain most of a scripting engine, not a filemanager. > In as far as S-Lang scripting is concerned, it's definitively easy to bolt > it on, but I really wouldn't want to live with the resulting mess. Our > code base is already in a shape bad enough... > I have a very pleasant experience with S-Lang. I've ran my first script displaying a listbox from script after ~2 hours of hacking – thanks to Slirp, the S-Lang version of Swig. It works very, surprisingly well! And it has all the advanced features of Swig (take a look at examples/kitchensink/slirprc if you have time). It looks solid. Basically, to simply export a function to S-Lang, all that is required is to run: slirp header.h, with the declaration in that file and to compile and link the resulting header_glue.c (that slirp automatically creates)! What concerns me about S-Lang is that it's not an object oriented language and that it doesn't have a bool type. However, that might be a good thing, as the engine and the vision will be light thanks to this, maybe… It doesn't make sense to me for you invest your valuable time only to get > your patches criticized or rejected or just rotting on the tracker without > any feedback. If we can agree on a direction, then I think it will be good > for all of us, if we can't - at least it will be good for you, because > then you can spare your time arguing with us and directly setup a fork > instead... :-) > Yes, I had such hunches too. So my intentions are: – to make the gem, that mcedit is, more popular, – to make it grow and flourish mainly by the light scripting engine, but also by regular C work (like e.g.: the tags objects in listboxes patch – really, I don't know how I was using the various Vim tags plugins for years, as it's the mcedit's way – a simple listbox (which can be just built in) – that is the right way to do tags :) – then to utilize the scripting also in regular mc and see what ideas will come up. I'm constantly having ideas on mcedit improvements. I'm saving them to a file… It had like 80 entries, but I've just accidentally deleted it hours ago via a miserable rm -f **/*.#* glob (it expands to all files, not just those with hash in them, so look out) :( however I have a backup that has ~50 entries, uf … So maybe I could do a wish list on the wiki out of it? PS. This gives an idea for an improvement – a saving of the backup file to a predefined directory outside the current tree… Could be done as a script plugin, maybe. -- > Sincerely yours, > Yury V. Zaytsev > -- Sebastian Gniazdowski IRC: https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.net:+6697/#zinit Blog: http://zdharma.org
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