Hi Travis:

I've used Flickr successfully at several institutions now, and, in addition
to using it as a method for collections access, have managed to set it up
kind of like a low-cost, quick-n-dirty DAM.

Two ways you can do this are to either have one login for the institution
that all the staff shares or (my preference) have each user create an
account. The main institutional login adds each person as a contact and
marks them as a friend or family member. These statuses can be used to set
access restrictions on the images. If the permissions are set correctly, the
individuals would be able to download a full-size image by clicking on the
"All sizes" button within Flickr. Additionally, they would be able to add
metadata on their own. An advantage of using Flickr is that should you
decide to make the images public, it's easy enough to automatically do so.
Another advantage of Flickr is the ability to organize the assets by
Collections and Sets, which makes the assets very easy to find.

There are some open source DAMS out there, and I've successfully played
around with Razuna. I've not had an opportunity to work with other systems,
and none of them extensively, so I can't give any opinions on easy DAM
solutions, but they might be worth checking out, too.

I'm pasting below my recent comments to the Registrar's Listserv that
outlines my pros and cons of using Flickr for public collections access
(should you decide to go that route). One clarification about the metadata
issue (in my "Cons" below): I know that there are some efforts to make tools
available to link the collection metadata to the Flickr image, but I don't
believe I'm at liberty to discuss the specifics as of yet. Hopefully there
will be a solution to that problem soon :)

Hope this helps!

~Perian

****
As one of the early adopters of using Flickr for increasing access to
collections, I think I should speak up here with my list of pros and cons. I
presented on this very topic at the CAM conference in March, and I'm hoping
to talk about it again at AAM in May. My slides are here:
http://www.slideshare.net/psully/interested-public-is-interested-using-flickr-to-put-collection-assets-online
And when I was at the Magnes, my boss put up a detailed blog post about the
project here: http://blog.magnes.org/opensourceblog/?p=907

Pros:
~Flickr is cheap. Only $25/year for more-or-less unlimited storage
~Flickr is indexed by search engines regularly, so content posted to Flickr
is more likely to find found via Google or Yahoo (I have a bit more about
this here:
http://musematic.net/2010/05/12/cultural-collections-and-the-semantic-web/
)
~Easy to use, with lots of ways to upload and organize the content
~Opportunities for interaction by the public, including comments, tagging,
and identification
~Easy-to-use analytics to see what people are interested in
~Increased rights and reproduction requests

Cons:
~Increased rights and reproduction requests. Honestly, we really didn't
expect the massive increase in requests. We'd put our content onto Flickr
with large enough quality for researchers and teachers and non-profits to
use as they needed, and applied a Creative Commons license to the assets as
well. But because people could find our assets easily, and were respectful
of the bounds of the license, we got pretty swamped with R&R requests. Lots
more revenue, but we finally had to cut off all requests during the
collections move.
~Potential for "unintended use". Granted, Magnes hadn't seen any of that,
despite the ethnically-specific content. There haven't been negative
comments to moderate, either. But there's always that
potential.
~Applying metadata. This is the biggest problem. The last two weeks Iwas at
Magnes, I uploaded on the order of 5000 images. I managed to tag them using
Adobe Bridge, but I did not have the opportunity to describe them, because
the only way I could do it was by manually copying and pasting from the
database, into the image's IPTC fields. So the Magnes Flickr account has a
whole lot of beautifully-described assets (see
http://www.flickr.com/photos/magnesmuseum/4402841084/ ) and a whole lot of
barely-described assets (like
http://www.flickr.com/photos/magnesmuseum/4714606931/in/set-72157624310866700/).
If I could have, I would have started way earlier on the project and
gotten a dedicated volunteer to help. (PS - see amended comment above)
~Artist rights. For Magnes, this wasn't that much of an issue, but for those
few pieces that did have limitations on web publication of  images, I either
didn't publish them at all, or, in the case of those
with fuzzy rights (eg. the deed says that Magnes has full rights, but the
artist is still living, and copyright perceptions have changed recently) I
reduced the size of the image from the standard 1000 pixel
length and 72 dpi down to 500 pixel length - large enough for use by
teachers, too small for use by publishers.

I strongly encourage you to read the Library of Congress' report, "For the
Common Good: The Library of Congress Pilot Flickr Project"
http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/flickr_report_final.pdf It's a really
accessible and interesting read.

Perian Sully
http://www.emphatic.org
http://www.musematic.net
http://www.mediaandtechnology.org
Twitter: @p_sully

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Travis Fullerton <
Tfullerton at vmfa.state.va.us> wrote:

> Sorry for the cross-posting (but, we should all be used to it by now...)
>
> Hi all.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with using online photo
> sharing websites such Shutterfly, Picasa, Flickr, Photobucket, or the like
> to share and distribute publicity and event images internally. We don?t
> have
> a DAMs set up that can be accessed by multiple users (yet) and we are
> looking for a simple and cheap solution for allowing image users to browse
> publicity images that are ?fresh? and available. We would have about a
> dozen
> people that would need private access. People like publications, marketing,
> education, and web would be the primary users.
>
> Any comments, advise, or anecdotes are welcome...
>
> -Travis
>
>
> --
> Travis Fullerton
> Assistant Photographer, Virginia Museum of Fine Arts
> 200 N Boulevard, Richmond, VA 23220
> 804.340.1538
>

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