Hi Karoliina,
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:53 AM, karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com
<karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Killing scratchbox without a replacement (OBS is not a replacement!) is not
> very
> good choice.
MeeGo was theoretically usable in qemu, unfortunately, I don't think a
lot of effort was put into that direction. There is also MADDE,
although as you probably know, that isn't very useful unless you're a
simple application developer - a more complex beast like the settings
application wouldn't really be easy to use there unless you did some
hacking around in the rootfs, injecting your own needed libs, etc.
This is definitely something that I imagine will be looked into around
the context of Mer - Mer of old had images that could easily be shoved
into virtualbox, etc, and they made life a lot easier.
OBS is a very useful tool, just not for the purposes you were
apparently forced to use it for. I've used it for the commit, push
package, wait for build failure type development cycle as well, and I
agree, it's far from optimal - but for easily making heavily
customised distributions, OBS is great.
> e.g. seeing our duicontrolpanel on MeeGo-MeeGo installation instead of
> Harmattan is a whole different experience than seeing it on Harmattan
> device),
<snip>
> But good news, there is a easy technology to make a superb UI framework
> rapidly, QML.
> It needs some work, needs to be consistent UI concept, excellent graphics
> (which have a meaning,
The technology is, at the end of the day, not that important (though I
agree that QML makes life a lot easier) - at the end of the day, you
can have the best written UI in the world, and it will still look like
complete and utter crap without decent theming.
Hopefully we can poke some of the awesome graphical people around like
wazd to give us a hand with some of this.
> - Many of the lower layers have been already open sourced by companies and
> it is just about utilizing them and doing the top of the cake right. There
> are some missing pieces, but filling the gaps should not be impossible.
One of the missing gaps, at least on Handset CE, is the settings
application. As you point out, it is not visually pleasing, it has
flickering text ("!! Wifi" before changing to the actual text), and
other issues which make it a bit pailful to use.
Given your experience with it, would you like to dedicate some time to
making it more usable, perhaps even doing some thinking on how to
approach it from the QML world?
BR,
Robin
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