Basically the tech that we used as well, although I used to shot peen them
to relieve surface stresses.  The only reason I did it was a friend of mine
was a machinist in the RAAF and we could do the x-ray, shot peen and
machining onthe base (permission of course).  Saved me heaps of $$$ but cost
heaps of time.

As you say though Errol preparation is everything.

Thanks for your reply!


Brad HALLETT
Ipswich, Qld
----- Original Message -----
From: "Errol Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Radiators


> Brad,
> I always use stock rods as they give best bang for your buck.
>
> The preparation process in order is :- check centre to centre lengths and
> get a matched set down to + - 0.001". You will be surprised at the
> variation in standard production lengths. The rods are then X- rayed to
> check for cracks or casting bubbles.
> Select the best set of rods then de-dag them, lighten the big end area and
> reshape the beams.  Increase the side clearances by linishing. This allows
> better oil flow through the shell carrying away heat.
> I always fit Chev rod bolts if the engine is to run near 8000 rpm or over.
> The rods are then aligned to ensure the gudgeon pin and big end are
> parallel. The big end cap surfaces are then ground and the rod shell
> surfaces are resized. Balancing to 0.5 grams of the big end and gudgeon
end
> is next. The rods are then shot peened.
>
> On building the engine I always do the crush on the bearing shells to
> 0.0035" to ensure good contact between the shell and the rod to carry away
> heat efficiently.If using forged pistons, I fit bronze bushes in the
> gudgeon rod end to allow the gudgeon pin to be fully floating. Teflon
> buttons prevent pin side movement.
>
> I know this is a lot of preparation work and it costs, (typically $800/set
> of rods) but you can be confident the rods will hack anything you throw at
> them up to 8500 rpm. If anything lets go it will usually be the crank
> breaking on no 5 journal or a piston eating a lazy valve.
> Cheers
> Feral Errol
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Brad HALLETT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Radiators
> > Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:57
> >
> > True Errol but it sounds flash when you say "I have titanium rods"
> >
> > I have always used stock 1600 rods in circuit cars and never had a
> problem,
> > the only prep being polishing and shot peening.  What have you used?
> >
> > Brad HALLETT
> > Ipswich, Qld
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Errol Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: Radiators
> >
> >
> > > The only problem is that titanium has a very limited life in a circuit
> > type
> > > engine. It is good in compression (ie when being used in a drag car
> with
> > > continuous load applied), but not good in a situation where its
loading
> is
> > > compressive then tensile back to compressive etc as in a circuit car.
> > > Alternating load types cause it to work harden and after a limited
time
> > > cracks develop. This is also true for titanium in valves etc which is
> why
> > > the group A teams change valves every race meeting or two depending on
> > > budget
> > > Cheers
> > > Feral Errol
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Brad HALLETT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Radiators
> > > Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 12:40
> > >
> > > RE: ClutchI would love to get my hands on the rods and crank
> > >
> > > yeehaa!
> > > Brad HALLETT
> > > Ipswich, Qld
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Jim Jones
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 12:15 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: Radiators
> > >
> > >
> > >   The reason for my asking is that I managed to get a hold of the
Nismo
> > > built version ( Bathurst Bluebirds) complete with titanium rods and
> crank,
> > > sand bent extractors( which I have since tossed as the placement of
the
> > > turbo with the external wastegate was a shocker) etc about 5 years ago
> and
> > > the car has never really been on the road since.  However the ball and
> > > chain has since changed her mind and would rather it go than gather
> dust.
> > > So she should be ready in the next few months
> > >
> > >   Has anyone wound one of these up.  I would be interested in knowing
> what
> > > kind of power figures have been achieved to date with various
> > combinations.
> > >  The figures that they were quoting at while at Bathurst were a little
> far
> > > fetched however I believe at times they did run 36PSI .
> > >
> > >   Jim
> > >     -----Original Message-----
> > >     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris (CP)
> > >     Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2000 23:04
> > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     Subject: RE: Radiators
> > >
> > >
> > >     yes i've seen a few
> > >       -----Original Message-----
> > >       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Jones
> > >       Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 9:12 AM
> > >       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >       Subject: RE: Radiators
> > >
> > >
> > >       Chris
> > >
> > >       Do you know of many Z18T's that have had extensive mods
> undertaken.
> > >
> > >       Jim
> > >         -----Original Message-----
> > >         From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris (CP)
> > >         Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2000 10:58
> > >         To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >         Subject: Radiators
> > >
> > >
> > >         Bought an N14 pulsar radiator for my z18t. The bottom pipe is
> on
> > > the wrong side but it fits  (JUST). It had twin
> > >         thermos so i couldn't resist. anyone else tried these.  Tanks
> are
> > > on top and bottom not like n13 left and right
> > >
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