I look forward to the new engine designs to use hydrogen effectively. I bet there is some good technology just waiting for when the cost and storage/delivery problems are solved
Cheers, Feral Errol mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datrats.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chalmers, Ryan Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 12:48 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches Thats why we should be pushing for Hydrogen powered cars, fill the tank up from the tap and away we go ; ) > -----Original Message----- > From: James Marmont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 12:15 pm > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > i wont argue with you cos im not 100 percent on the capacities. my point > regarding the multivalve v8s is that even though the technology is > available most manufacturers still cling to pushrods. i love a fully > worked v8 as much as the next guy, but 5.7l is rediculous in this day and > age! petrol is only getting more expensive and there is less of it to go > around. are they going to wait untill there is no petrol left before they > say " derrrr, maybe 5.7l is a bit to big, may be we should make something > smaller". > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 11:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > You are all wrong wrong wrong! > Current Formula 1 cars use 3 litre V10 engines. Some manufacturers were > developing V12 engines until cylinders were limited to 10 by FIA. But yes > of > course they are multivalve (upto 5 per cylinder). > > As mentioned by someone else Toyota and even Nissan have production quad > cam 32 > valve V8s too. You can get them at importers too so they are not that > exclusive. > > > > F1's are 3.6 litre and i think the rules have recently changed to make > them > > all V10's > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Marmont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:19 AM > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > fornula one cars are limited ti 1.6l.the benneton team used to run > bigger > > capacity v8s before the rules changed. and yes toyota and ferrari do > make > > quad cam v8s, but they are only in very expensive luxury cars. they need > to > > maked them more wide spead in their use > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 3:39 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I belive that both Farrari and Toyota put > out > > > high tech qaud cam V8s. And I could be wrong but I think a lot of the > F1 > > > cars use small V8s, 3.5L etc > > > > > > > > > > >i am well aware of this > > > >but another thing to remember is that v8s use 1950s technology. they > > still > > > >use push rods for fucks sake! if a manufacturer made a well balanced > 3 > > > >liter v8, using quad cams and 4 or 5 valves per cylinder, that would > > change > > > >the whole equation and put out the same if not more power. torque may > be > > > >down a bit, but nothing forced induction cant fix!!! > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 2:52 PM > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > >Gentlemen, > > > > > > > >I enjoy seeing a L20B beat a V8 off the lights as much as anyone else > but > > > >you must remember we are talking a highly modified L20B vs a fairly > stock > > > >V8. Its all about how much air and fuel you can get into an engine, > and > > a > > > >larger motor will always have the cability to intake more air and > fuel. A > > > >twin turbo RB26 can put out 1000hp but a equaly worked blown V8 will > put > > > >out > > > >10,000hp. There is a reason why the quickest cars in the world run > the > > 1/4 > > > >with blown big block V8s. > > > > > > > >Although as you know your a lot more likey to be able to afford to > drive > > a > > > >700 - 800hp turbo (both in building cost and in petrol) on the road > than > > a > > > >10,000hp blown V8, blown V8s are BIG $$$ and use a LOT of fuel, I've > > heard > > > >of such cars using over a litre of AVGAS per km! > > > > > > > >Don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but a larger engine, worked > equally, > > > >will aways produce more power. > > > > > > > >James Cox > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >OF COURSE THERE IS ITS CALLED BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > >That Harry guy is obviously a peanut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Duncan Shillito wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "there is no substitute for cubic inches" > > !!!!.................(harry > > > > >firth 1967). > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
