yeah ralph sarich. he asked the oz govt for a grant and they said no so he went to the states, made millions, they have a few ford festivas here in perth with the orbital engine in them 6 cyl i think.... the guy has good ideas but no-one here would support him. you might see a few concept cars with his engines in them occasionally at shows.
ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Alford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > Yeah, I think that is the one I am thinking of. > > I thought I read somewhere that he took his design to the states, and > someone produced a car with his engine. Don't quote me on that though. > > Mark. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:20 PM > Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > hey mark > > > > You meaning the Orbital Engine Company? Melbourne Uni are > > doing some cool research in collaboration with Collins Motor > > Corporation into scotch yoke engine design too that has received > > considerable attention. > > > > andrew > > > > > > > hi, any one remember the name of the company in australia that was > > > developing a engine, that had some things that resembled pistons, a > sorta > > > arm lifted the pistons up with a stroke of 5-10 mm, and fuel was > injected > > > with extreme high pressure air to atomise the fuel , and you could gang > up > > > as many of these pistons as u want, it was set up in a rotary fashion i > > > think, i saw it on a video at TAFE.................. > > > > > > > > > MARK K > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:43 PM > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > I look forward to the new engine designs to use hydrogen effectively. > > > > I bet there is some good technology just waiting for when the cost and > > > > storage/delivery problems are solved > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Feral Errol > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.datrats.com.au/ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chalmers, > Ryan > > > > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 12:48 PM > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > Thats why we should be pushing for Hydrogen powered cars, fill the > tank up > > > > from the tap and away we go ; ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: James Marmont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 12:15 pm > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > i wont argue with you cos im not 100 percent on the capacities. my > point > > > > > regarding the multivalve v8s is that even though the technology is > > > > > available most manufacturers still cling to pushrods. i love a fully > > > > > worked v8 as much as the next guy, but 5.7l is rediculous in this > day > > > and > > > > > age! petrol is only getting more expensive and there is less of it > to go > > > > > around. are they going to wait untill there is no petrol left before > > > they > > > > > say " derrrr, maybe 5.7l is a bit to big, may be we should make > > > something > > > > > smaller". > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 11:10 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are all wrong wrong wrong! > > > > > Current Formula 1 cars use 3 litre V10 engines. Some manufacturers > were > > > > > developing V12 engines until cylinders were limited to 10 by FIA. > But > > > yes > > > > > of > > > > > course they are multivalve (upto 5 per cylinder). > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned by someone else Toyota and even Nissan have production > quad > > > > > cam 32 > > > > > valve V8s too. You can get them at importers too so they are not > that > > > > > exclusive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F1's are 3.6 litre and i think the rules have recently changed to > make > > > > > them > > > > > > all V10's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "James Marmont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:19 AM > > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fornula one cars are limited ti 1.6l.the benneton team used to > run > > > > > bigger > > > > > > capacity v8s before the rules changed. and yes toyota and ferrari > do > > > > > make > > > > > > quad cam v8s, but they are only in very expensive luxury cars. > they > > > need > > > > > to > > > > > > maked them more wide spead in their use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 3:39 PM > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I belive that both Farrari and > Toyota > > > put > > > > > out > > > > > > > high tech qaud cam V8s. And I could be wrong but I think a lot > of > > > the > > > > > F1 > > > > > > > cars use small V8s, 3.5L etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >i am well aware of this > > > > > > > >but another thing to remember is that v8s use 1950s technology. > > > they > > > > > > still > > > > > > > >use push rods for fucks sake! if a manufacturer made a well > > > balanced > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > >liter v8, using quad cams and 4 or 5 valves per cylinder, that > > > would > > > > > > change > > > > > > > >the whole equation and put out the same if not more power. > torque > > > may > > > > > be > > > > > > > >down a bit, but nothing forced induction cant fix!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > >From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 2:52 PM > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >Subject: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Gentlemen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I enjoy seeing a L20B beat a V8 off the lights as much as > anyone > > > else > > > > > but > > > > > > > >you must remember we are talking a highly modified L20B vs a > fairly > > > > > stock > > > > > > > >V8. Its all about how much air and fuel you can get into an > > > engine, > > > > > and > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >larger motor will always have the cability to intake more air > and > > > > > fuel. A > > > > > > > >twin turbo RB26 can put out 1000hp but a equaly worked blown V8 > > > will > > > > > put > > > > > > > >out > > > > > > > >10,000hp. There is a reason why the quickest cars in the world > run > > > > > the > > > > > > 1/4 > > > > > > > >with blown big block V8s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Although as you know your a lot more likey to be able to afford > to > > > > > drive > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >700 - 800hp turbo (both in building cost and in petrol) on the > road > > > > > than > > > > > > a > > > > > > > >10,000hp blown V8, blown V8s are BIG $$$ and use a LOT of fuel, > > > I've > > > > > > heard > > > > > > > >of such cars using over a litre of AVGAS per km! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but a larger engine, > worked > > > > > equally, > > > > > > > >will aways produce more power. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >James Cox > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >OF COURSE THERE IS ITS CALLED BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > >That Harry guy is obviously a peanut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Duncan Shillito wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "there is no substitute for cubic inches" > > > > > > !!!!.................(harry > > > > > > > > >firth 1967). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
