the thing is orbital didnt make millions from its engines as such, but from the subsequent licencing and patenting arrangements with other companies using various chunks of orbital's ancillary technologies. eg saab using orbital fuel delivery technology in their variable compression engine(?)
Andrew On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, FJ510 wrote: > yeah > ralph sarich. > he asked the oz govt for a grant and they said no > so he went to the states, made millions, they have a few > ford festivas here in perth with the orbital engine in them > 6 cyl i think.... the guy has good ideas but no-one here > would support him. > you might see a few concept cars with his engines in > them occasionally at shows. > > ryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Alford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > Yeah, I think that is the one I am thinking of. > > > > I thought I read somewhere that he took his design to the states, and > > someone produced a car with his engine. Don't quote me on that though. > > > > Mark. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Andrew Greenbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:20 PM > > Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > hey mark > > > > > > You meaning the Orbital Engine Company? Melbourne Uni are > > > doing some cool research in collaboration with Collins Motor > > > Corporation into scotch yoke engine design too that has received > > > considerable attention. > > > > > > andrew > > > > > > > > > > hi, any one remember the name of the company in australia that was > > > > developing a engine, that had some things that resembled pistons, a > > sorta > > > > arm lifted the pistons up with a stroke of 5-10 mm, and fuel was > > injected > > > > with extreme high pressure air to atomise the fuel , and you could > gang > > up > > > > as many of these pistons as u want, it was set up in a rotary fashion > i > > > > think, i saw it on a video at TAFE.................. > > > > > > > > > > > > MARK K > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "E Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:43 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > I look forward to the new engine designs to use hydrogen > effectively. > > > > > I bet there is some good technology just waiting for when the cost > and > > > > > storage/delivery problems are solved > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Feral Errol > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://www.datrats.com.au/ > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chalmers, > > Ryan > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 12:48 PM > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > Thats why we should be pushing for Hydrogen powered cars, fill the > > tank up > > > > > from the tap and away we go ; ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: James Marmont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 12:15 pm > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > i wont argue with you cos im not 100 percent on the capacities. my > > point > > > > > > regarding the multivalve v8s is that even though the technology is > > > > > > available most manufacturers still cling to pushrods. i love a > fully > > > > > > worked v8 as much as the next guy, but 5.7l is rediculous in this > > day > > > > and > > > > > > age! petrol is only getting more expensive and there is less of it > > to go > > > > > > around. are they going to wait untill there is no petrol left > before > > > > they > > > > > > say " derrrr, maybe 5.7l is a bit to big, may be we should make > > > > something > > > > > > smaller". > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 11:10 AM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are all wrong wrong wrong! > > > > > > Current Formula 1 cars use 3 litre V10 engines. Some manufacturers > > were > > > > > > developing V12 engines until cylinders were limited to 10 by FIA. > > But > > > > yes > > > > > > of > > > > > > course they are multivalve (upto 5 per cylinder). > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned by someone else Toyota and even Nissan have > production > > quad > > > > > > cam 32 > > > > > > valve V8s too. You can get them at importers too so they are not > > that > > > > > > exclusive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > F1's are 3.6 litre and i think the rules have recently changed > to > > make > > > > > > them > > > > > > > all V10's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "James Marmont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:19 AM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fornula one cars are limited ti 1.6l.the benneton team used to > > run > > > > > > bigger > > > > > > > capacity v8s before the rules changed. and yes toyota and > ferrari > > do > > > > > > make > > > > > > > quad cam v8s, but they are only in very expensive luxury cars. > > they > > > > need > > > > > > to > > > > > > > maked them more wide spead in their use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 3:39 PM > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but I belive that both Farrari and > > Toyota > > > > put > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > high tech qaud cam V8s. And I could be wrong but I think a > lot > > of > > > > the > > > > > > F1 > > > > > > > > cars use small V8s, 3.5L etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >i am well aware of this > > > > > > > > >but another thing to remember is that v8s use 1950s > technology. > > > > they > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > >use push rods for fucks sake! if a manufacturer made a well > > > > balanced > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > >liter v8, using quad cams and 4 or 5 valves per cylinder, > that > > > > would > > > > > > > change > > > > > > > > >the whole equation and put out the same if not more power. > > torque > > > > may > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > >down a bit, but nothing forced induction cant fix!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > >From: James Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 2:52 PM > > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >Subject: Boost vs Cubic inches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Gentlemen, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I enjoy seeing a L20B beat a V8 off the lights as much as > > anyone > > > > else > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > >you must remember we are talking a highly modified L20B vs a > > fairly > > > > > > stock > > > > > > > > >V8. Its all about how much air and fuel you can get into an > > > > engine, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > >larger motor will always have the cability to intake more air > > and > > > > > > fuel. A > > > > > > > > >twin turbo RB26 can put out 1000hp but a equaly worked blown > V8 > > > > will > > > > > > put > > > > > > > > >out > > > > > > > > >10,000hp. There is a reason why the quickest cars in the > world > > run > > > > > > the > > > > > > > 1/4 > > > > > > > > >with blown big block V8s. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Although as you know your a lot more likey to be able to > afford > > to > > > > > > drive > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > >700 - 800hp turbo (both in building cost and in petrol) on > the > > road > > > > > > than > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > >10,000hp blown V8, blown V8s are BIG $$$ and use a LOT of > fuel, > > > > I've > > > > > > > heard > > > > > > > > >of such cars using over a litre of AVGAS per km! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but a larger engine, > > worked > > > > > > equally, > > > > > > > > >will aways produce more power. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >James Cox > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >OF COURSE THERE IS ITS CALLED BOOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > >That Harry guy is obviously a peanut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Duncan Shillito wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "there is no substitute for cubic inches" > > > > > > > !!!!.................(harry > > > > > > > > > >firth 1967). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > > > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
