I know a lot of Police, and yep I know Lisa.  

Cheers
Brad 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tobias walker
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 9:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Ben/Legal matters


yeah mate I have no problems with cops really just the young arrogant
ones 
"respect given is respect gained" the last time I was a little silly I
got 
stopped though they couldn't pin me for speeding though I did go up the
hill 
quite quickly I just got a defect notice I thold them they treated me
with 
more respect than police have in the past they didn't really know what I

meant I dont think
O and they were detectives too rego 365 DEE falcon hehehe and no I dont
call 
cops pricks either I do have some respect for them
you met lisa norton too she's in ipswich though a different branch ?
Toby


>From: "Brad Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Ben/Legal matters
>Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:03:18 +1000
>
>No Tobes I don't have any dealing with Traffic Branch.  Detective vs 
>Traffic fight is alive and well in Qld.
>
>Its easy to point at the unifom boys and say "Why are those pricks 
>overtaking me" just as easy as the people at the job they are going to 
>are saying "where are these bastards".
>
>Coppers do get tickets regularly, and also get departmentally charged. 
>I have more photos of me behind the wheel courtesy of speed cameras 
>than I care to mention.
>
>I won't enter into arguments as I am the first to admit there are cops 
>who drive like idiots and then write tickets for the same thing.  I 
>don't do it and I won't allow it with any of my trainees because I 
>don't like hypocrits (and probably can't spell it either).
>
>I have broken the speed limit many times at work, but when justifiable.

>You don't dawdle when going to an armed robbery or a stabbing, common 
>sense must prevail.
>
>You'll meet a lot of people through life who have stories about Police.

>Some are true, some are not.  I won't enter into any arguments as I 
>hear it every day.  Traffic branch write tickets, and have to prove the

>offence beyond reasonable doubt before a Magistrate if it goes to 
>Court. If you get a ticket and you don't think it is justified, take it

>to court.  If you get a ticket and it is justified or you pay it 
>proving it is justified, don't complain - you got caught and that's all

>there is to it.
>
>Cheers
>Brad
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tobias 
>walker
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 7:46 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Ben/Legal matters
>
>
>at the end of the day really all drivers do things that aren't legal I 
>mean the other day I was sitting eating smoko near wacol train station 
>when I was watching a cop car trying to turn up a one way road !!!over 
>the bridge when he realized it was a one way so then he proceeded to do

>a U turn
>that I'd say would be illegal as they turned about I was waving my
index
>
>finger at them to know someone was watching all they did was put the 
>boot in and speed off ? now Y should they neot be able to get ticketed 
>for that ???
>we all are human how many time have we been overtaken by a cop car or
>bike ?
>I once tried to chase a cop bike along kingsford smith road I was dong
a
>
>fair speed and he was still moving away ? I have a friend that has alot

>to do with police or did and some of the stories were quite funny as 
>they ran
>the booze bus up to 139kph through a radar and a SS dunnydoor over 200
>kph ? I do belive they were ipswich cops too, brad you may know !!!
>
>
>
>
> >From: Andrew Denniss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Ben/Legal matters
> >Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 13:07:07 +1000
> >
> >Hi guys what a hornets nest has been stirred up I would like to make 
> >one point I have had my car fro nearly 5 years with only one ticket 
> >for
>
> >speeding at 113kh in a 100 zone I would like to think myself as a 
> >safe driver. I too have a family wife and 3 year old son. I know 
> >there is now excuse for burnout's I wouldn't exactly call what I did 
> >a burnout anyway just excellerated hard to around 70-80kmh. Some 
> >people may think
>
> >I got what I deserved. If the worst does happen I will just change my

> >ways and build a race only car and buy a mazda deisel van as work tow

> >vehicle. Cheers Andrew
> >
> >Brad Hallett wrote:
> >
> > > Mark
> > > I would expect most ppl on the list would be careful where they do

> > > it. It's the morons that have to tip palmolive or oil on the road 
> > > and then get stuck in that tars us all.  A month ago a teenage 
> > > girl in Ipswich got lacerations to her face from an idiot in VN 
> > > Commodore
>
> > > doing a burnout with retreads.  Lost a tread and she wore it, now 
> > > she has facial scarring.
> > >
> > > We always have to take into account the lowest denominator.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of mark 
> > > krawczuk
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2002 12:51 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Re:Ben/Legal matters
> > >
> > > here we go,    you  sound like these people that  go on about
doing
> > > burnouts on the street, and how they dislike em, then later you 
> > > find
>
> > > out that years ago  they themselves where the  worst for doing 
> > > that.
> > >
> > > i my self smoke up my falcon ea , where ever i feel like it ( and 
> > > if it can, its really slack on power),  but i dont go absolutely 
> > > spastic doing it. where the hell can u find a open race track 12 
> > > at night or 2 in the morning? what about if there are no tracks 
> > > around , what then,?
> > >
> > > i think that most  of us  are a bit carefull where we do  
> > > burnouts,i
>
> > > cant remember the last time i heard of any one getting hurt  or 
> > > killed doing a
> > > burn out. it s people that are inexperienced, and   do not know
how
>to
> > > handel a car  properly.
> > >  what really  gets my goat is  people  that go on about "our 
> > > families have have to drive on the street " etc and all that crap.
> > >
> > >         mark k
> > >
> > >
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