Hey Terry, Out of interest what colour wire is the ignition feed you mention for the original external reg??
Andrew > Mark, > > OK, so it's a Bosch alternator, so I'm wondering what sort of Bosch > alternator as the terminals have funny markings on the connectors? Has it > got an internal regulator which is a small black bakelite fitting with 2 > screws holding onto the back. A Bosch internal reg alternator off a Stanza > or 180B/200B/Bluebird etc only has a B+ and a D+ terminal and an Earth which > is just a screw fitting on the body. The B+ is a bolt with a 7/16" nut on > the end of it that extends out from the back and the D+ is a male spade > connector that's in a sort of a recess. The "capacitor thing" on the back is > a radio suppressor and the body is bolted to the Earth screw and the lead > end is connected to the B+ bolt. > > The missing external reg plug behind the battery sounds to me like your 1600 > may have had a Prince of Darkness Lucas alternator of some sort originally > out of the factory (what's the month/year on your build plate?). > > I'll give you a rundown on how to wire a Bosch internal reg alternator > that's found on a Datsun or Toyota donor on a 1600 just in case you've got > the terminal markings quoted wrong in your post - if you haven't got them > wrong then I'm stumped unless it's an External reg Bosch and I haven't seen > one of those for a long time and can't remember what the terminals are > marked on them. > > The big white wire from the solenoid connects to the B+ (Battery) terminal. > > Disconnect the Pos battery lead before you play with the wiring as if you > short anything out you'll destroy the regulator. > > What you do to get your internal reg Bosch charging is make up a lead for > the Indicator light, it doesn't have to be huge thickness (2mm or 7.5amp > will do) and fit a female spade connector and attach it to the D+ terminal. > Connect the other end to the small white/red trace wire that's near the > battery. This nearly has to be the Indicator wire as if the plug isn't there > it sounds like a PO has cut the plug clean off. There should/could be a > bunch of other wires there that were originally connected to the external > reg and some of these are live so they should be insulated. One of them is > an Ignition feed, very handy to trigger an electric fuel pump relay or > thematic fan but I digress. > > Recheck the wiring is exactly as I've written and then re-connect the Pos > battery lead. > > When you've done that, turn on your ignition and check that the IND light > glows. If the IND light doesn't glow then something is still wrong so don't > start up, disconnect the Pos battery lead again and get back to us. If the > IND light glows, then start her up and check the IND light goes out. If > everything is going well then turn on your lights and increase the revs to > 2000 rpm or so and check that the lights get slightly brighter and then dull > a bit when you return to idle. You can check the voltage increases and > decreases at the battery with engine revs with a multi-meter if you have > one. > > Good luck with it, > > regards, > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Firman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 9:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: starter/alternator/wiring troubles > > > Terry, > > The alternator is a bosch so you know. I have managed to get the engine > running but the alternator still isn't connected up correctly. Is this > white/red trace wire that goes to the dash light very thin? I have one > behind the battery that is cut off too short to reach the alt and it doesn't > have a connecter. If this could be it, then where on the alternator should i > connect it up to? > Sorry about all the questions, but if it isn't too much trouble, could you > tell me if what i have connected up sounds correct? > > - D+ on the alternator is connected to the positive terminal on the starter > solenoid. > - A screw sticking out of the back of the alternator is connected to earth. > > At the moment there is nothing connected to D- on the alternator as there > doesn't seem to be anywhere to connect anything to! > There is a capacitor thing on the back of the alt too, i think something to > do with reducing radio feedback or something?!? > > Thanks if you can look over what i've done and suggest anything, i would > really appreciate it. > > Mark. > > --- "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Mark, > > > >What sort of alternator are you running - I only recall seeing D+ & D- > >connections on Delco (GM) alternators but I guess there are others, don't > >think I've seen a Hitachi with them though. > > > > The Indicator wire at the Alternator on an Aussie 1600 is Yellow and it > >connects into a plug on the drivers side strut tower just behind the stock > >battery position. The Indicator wire changes colour at that plug to > >White/Red trace just to fool everyone. > > > >regards > >Terry > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Firman > >Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 9:32 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: starter/alternator/wiring troubles > > > > > >Thanks for the reply Mark, > > > >but do you have any idea what colour/guage wire i should be looking for > that > >comes from the dash warning light? Also, where on the alternator does it > >hook up to? I have three places, D+, D-, and the screw connected to the alt > >housing. > >If the wire from the screw in the back isn't meant to go to earth then > where > >should it go? > > > >Sorry about all the questions but i am lost! > > > >Thanks heaps! > > > >Mark. > > > >--- "mark krawczuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >> > >>hi, you should also have a wire from the bac of alt , going to the > >>warning light on the dash, otherwise it wont charge. > >>that wire you got going to earth, is the other end actually connected > to > >>the housing of the alt? > >>if it goes to a isolated terminal, then i think that some trouble coyuld > >be > >>there. > >> > >>mark k > >> > >> > >> > >>> Also, i have a alternator with a built in regulator and my wiring > diagram > >>shows a seperate regulator. > >>> At the moment i only have 2 wires connected to the alternator, > >>> - one from D+ on the alternator to the positive terminal on the starter, > >>> - and another from the screw in the back of the alternator to earth. > >>> > >>> i am just curious whether i should have something else connected and > also > >>that what i have connected so far is right?? > >>> > >>> Sorry for the very long post, but i am just really keen to get my car > >back > >>on the road :) > >>> > >>> Thanks to anyone who can help me out with my wiring troubles, > >>> > >>> Mark. > >>> > >>> _____________________________________________________________ > >>> Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > >>> ---> http://www.ozdat.com > >>> > >>> _____________________________________________________________ > >>> Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > >>> > >>> > >> > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > >---> http://www.ozdat.com > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get Your free Ozdat Email Account > ---> http://www.ozdat.com > > _____________________________________________________________ > Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with > [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
