If your that picky about how much a belt spinning a fan is going to 
reduce power output, might want to remove your alternator too, and just 
chage your battery of a night :)

As for the fan turbo idea, someone was selling an electric one on the 
net recently... runing low boost and 5% power gain I think.... Dont 
waste your time is my opionon.

Taking warm air from behind the radiator would be fairly pointless. A 
quick and easy mod which you could do if you've got some spare pipe... 
is to make a cold air intake, try and take air from a place with good 
flow. You should get a noticable difference particularly in the colder 
months...

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: carburettor and induction questions

> I would imagine that if you could build any boost at all with the fan
> idea, it wouldntbe enough to offset cost and weight gain. While fans
> move a lot of air, they dont build much pressure - if you think of a
> leaf blower it generates a fair gust of air, but when you stick your
> hand over the end it really doesnt produce much pressure.
> 
> Air should blow back from the fan towards the engine - the fan is 
> thereto suck air in from the front of the car.
> 
> As for the electric fan idea, if you wired the fan up to run
> continuously you might get an economy gain, or an economy loss - when
> you are using an electric fan the power has to be generated from the
> alternator which isnt 100% efficient, and then by the fan motor which
> isnt 100% efficient and so it might take more total energy to generate
> that volume of air movement than it would with just the engine fan.
> Wired up with a thermostatic controller you would almost 
> definately have
> an efficiency gain, as in reality for most of the time you dont 
> need a
> radiator fan. As for a power gain, I believe you would get a power 
> gainusing a thermostatic controller or not.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 23:07, Ian Fagg wrote:
> > Sorry to waste your time on these questions... I'd normally ask 
> the forum for something this trivial but it's down at the moment 
> so I can't.
> > 
> > Firstly, looking from the front of the car (I have a stock 
> stanza - L16, standard carby) is the primary throttle on the right 
> or the left? I'm presuming its on the right as that one has no 
> butterfly choke in the throat.
> > 
> > Secondly, and I'm hypothesising a lot here, if I were to extend 
> the intake duct coming into the air filter so that it had a rather 
> large opening situated just behind the engine fan, would there be 
> any kind of turbo effect, and would there be any noticeable 
> increase in power? That'd be cheaper than a turbo :-)
> > 
> > Thirdly, if there would be any increase in power from the setup 
> in my second question, would it be greater than the increase in 
> power from removing the belt-driven fan and replacing it with an 
> electric one?
> > 
> > Fourthly, and following on from the fan idea, should there be 
> air blowing back from the fan towards the engine at all? Shouldn't 
> the air from the fan blow onto the radiator? Or does it just spin 
> so fast that some air just gets pushed backwards? That last point 
> doesn't work with the laws of physics, but then some datsuns seem 
> to break those anyways ;-) jk
> > 
> > That's all the questions I can think of at the moment :-)
> > 
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