I've just sold my GSX-r 1000 because of the same problem. I only did 850
k's on it and it was just too painful to consider riding any long
distance. My mate has an R1 and he says he doesn't have any problems
like that at all. But shit, they go!!!!

Lach

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Costello
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....

yeah I was tossing up between the R1 and the GSXR myself Ryan, have you
ridden both? the thing that clenched it for me was after 15 odd minutes
of
riding the GSXR my forearms were sooooo sore from constantly holding up
my
body weight. Where as  on the R1 I found I could basically lean on my
elbows
on the outside edges of the tank and still have plenty of movement in my
forearms for quick responce.......much more comfortable

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "ryanmel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....


> it's a yamaha 1000cc bike, stock form the new 2003's run low 10's high
9's.
> now, for me, it's a hard decision between R1 or Suzuki GSXR1000, 0-100
in
> 1.8secs i think.
> if your datto is as fast as you say, awesome.  you need to race people
on
a
> track though.  i've found that if you're on the street there's ppl who
won't
> try their hardest.
> put them on a track side by side (let's say 1/4 mile for example) and
then
> compare, then you know there's a high possibility that both of you
have
your
> foot to the floor and you aren't changing till redline.
>
> one thing though, you said the bikes don't corner....... i've not
managed
to
> get my datto's around bends as fast as my bike.  cornering at 240kph
with
> another 60kph left in it, knee scraping the ground, not much comes
close
to
> the adrenaline i get out it.
>
> better calm down, getting a bit excited.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
>
>
> > I dont even know what a R1 is .
> > is it street legal?.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Costello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> >
> >
> > > wish you were in oz
> > > I have a modified R1 and $1500 cash that says no naturally
aspirated L
> > > powered 1600 would beat it in a drag
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> > >
> > >
> > > > to beat a 10 second bike....in a 900kg car....you would need
> > > > 500hp-odd....thats a fair bit from a NA 2.5.....not to mention
trying
> to
> > > get
> > > > traction down in a IRS 1600.....how on earth did you get 500hp
from
a
> > > 2.5ltr
> > > > l20?? yours must be one of the fastest 1600s ever
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 1:17 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Malcolm,
> > > >
> > > > When you mentioned you like street dragging 1000cc+ bikes, did
you
> mean
> > > > on them or against them?
> > > > In either case I'd love some more details regarding your car. Do
you
> > have
> > > > a webpage?
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > >
> > > > On 16/06/03, 17:02:07, "Maldat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
regarding
> Re:
> > > bit
> > > > rich I think.....:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm quite happy to ,as soon as the car is back on the road and
> engine
> > > ran
> > > > > back in.
> > > > > Thats the plan  Full on circuit racing in classic modafied.
> > > > > No way I can run in stock classic ,engine kills it
> > > >
> > > > > Targa 2005 is a very big aim for me ,But planning to have the
car
> back
> > > on
> > > > > the road well before that.
> > > >
> > > > > My engine is sort of like ben johnson's (nz) 510 rally car of
about
> > 3-4
> > > > > years ago,he came second overall in the classic rally of the
south
> > > island
> > > > or
> > > > > something like that,doing it with wrx,evo's all the big 4wd
> > > stuff.Totally
> > > > > flew past other datsuns running L20B's they were stratching
their
> > heads
> > > > over
> > > > > this one.we both have the same blocks with the same mods.I got
the
> > parts
> > > > > need for him.
> > > >
> > > > > I've had some dude around a few years back from FF&R he said,
with
a
> > big
> > >
> > > > > camera ,I told him to go away.He even spoke like a ozzie
(6-sex)
> > > >
> > > > > If you think I'm tossing thats fine by me,I dont even care,I
know
> what
> > I
> > > > got
> > > > > and what it does,You'll see ,it will not be tomorrow but it
will
> > happen.
> > > > > The USA 2.5 TransAm is what I like but with out the big body
mods.
> > > >
> > > > > When it becomes time to get a wof for the road ,I'll be saying
to
> the
> > > > dude
> > > > > ,See the glove box factory badge that says "2.5 datsun" thats
> factory
> > > > ,the
> > > > > car is a Datsun 1600 ,but factory 2500cc  ,even though the cam
cover
> > > says
> > > > > Datsun 1600 because that what it is.
> > > > > (probley will not work and have to get cert'd anyway,but I've
> allways
> > > got
> > > > > passed it before)
> > > > > Malcolm
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Robert Charles Scealy"
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > I think you are going to have to come through with some
timeslips
> > > here,
> > > > > > bearing in mind that many of the ~1100cc sportsbikes cut 10
second
> > > > > > quarters the old 510 may have its work cut out for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Maldat wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I dont beat a car once I do it all the time,
> > > > > > > what type of bluebird you got?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the other nite in the rain me and a mate out in the
leopard
> > thought
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > joke going by his watch/stopwatch  what does it do
0-100kph
> ,well
> > > on
> > > > a
> > > > > wet
> > > > > > > road we came up with low 7's.(7.35ish)..my 510 is way
faster
> than
> > my
> > > > V8
> > > > > ,But
> > > > > > > not on a wet road.
> > > > > > > totally different type of cars anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When ya 510 eats RX3 and 7's and HQ holdens with tunnel
ram
with
> > > twin
> > > > > 4BBl's
> > > > > > > ,,it fast..
> > > > > > > The guy in the holden was rather pissed at me cos I blew
him
> twice
> > > in
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > days..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1000cc plus motor bikes is what I love street drag'n the
most
> and
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > open road,but they dont corner.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Malcolm
> > > > > > > P.S my 510 weigh's in at around 880Kg with a full tank and
me
in
> > > > it.(and
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > two boys ,but they are much bigger today)
> > > > > > > I belive to have the fastest L powered 510 in New
Zealand,Only
> one
> > > > other
> > > > > car
> > > > > > > to try and thats up north ,but by what I've heard if their
is
no
> > > prize
> > > > > its
> > > > > > > not worth the expense of going up.hes only running a
L18,but
> does
> > > > quite
> > > > > well
> > > > > > > in classic racing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Ben"
> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:27 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hahahaha    riiiiiiight.......i beat a 9second capri at
the
> > lights
> > > > > > > > once.....does that mean my bluebird will run 9s?? funny
how
i
> > > could
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > a low 13 outta it :D
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Maldat"
> > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:30 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > L20B 89mm bore with flat tops and Z24 bitts.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > From: "David Andrews"
> > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:15 PM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich I think.....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Lemme get this straight, you don't have ANY times for
you
> > 1600,
> > > > but
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > think its faster than a 911 turbo? Which can do 0-100
in
4.2
> > and
> > > > has
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > top speed of 305?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And you still didn't tell us what engine it has.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 14/06/03, 16:00:38, "Maldat"  wrote regarding
> > > > > Re:
> > > > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > > > rich I think.....:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Errol like I said when you came to NZ come to my
place
but
> > > your
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > wrapped
> > > > > > > > > > in finding old parts with chris who only in the end
ripped
> > you
> > > > > off.
> > > > > > > > > > Chris did not want you to meet up with me.Was it
your
idea
> > to
> > > > call
> > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > shop?.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If you want any jap junkers try this place
> > > > > http://www.tau-net.co.jp/
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > where a lot of imports come from ,I know of three
real
> fast
> > > > > skyline
> > > > > > > > GTR's
> > > > > > > > > > have come form here.Inc the race car thats on its
way (I
> > know
> > > of
> > > > > two
> > > > > > > > race
> > > > > > > > > > cars that have come from this place both GTR's).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I dont know ,speedo runs out in third gear ,I havnt
driven
> > it
> > > in
> > > > a
> > > > > > > long
> > > > > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > > > but I'm sure it pulls 90mph in second cog no worries
and
> > > engine
> > > > > starts
> > > > > > > > > > missing in fourth cog at 7500Rpm,only had a four
speed
> ,3.7
> > > > > > > > > diff,14x185x60
> > > > > > > > > > on 7" rims,same height as 175x13 on 13X6's.
> > > > > > > > > > it worked out to about 1000rpm to 20Mph in top
gear,hence
> > > 100mph
> > > > > was 5
> > > > > > > > > grand
> > > > > > > > > > ,120mph was 6,now at 100mph I could still bang third
and
> > pull
> > > > away
> > > > > > > > > > I've never lost a drag around town or on the open
road
in
> > the
> > > > 510
> > > > > ,I
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > the people in the flash cars like merc's and porshe
arnt
> > > really
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > driving
> > > > > > > > > > and lose the plot when they see the speedo is up
over
> 130mph
> > > and
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > > > off cos they pretty fast to about 130m,then
nothing.Plus
> at
> > > that
> > > > > time
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > 510
> > > > > > > > > > looked like a total piece of shit.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I belive my 510 is faster than the V8 I drive
everyday
and
> > > that
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > quicker
> > > > > > > > > > than most holden and all xr8's.(dont know about the
new
> quad
> > > cam
> > > > > one?)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > malcolm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "E Smith"
> > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 9:59 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: bit rich I think.....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Maybe he wanted the 4WD?
> > > > > > > > > > > If another X Nissan Works Group A comes up for
$20,000
> NZ,
> > > can
> > > > I
> > > > > > > hold
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > hand up for three of them please : )
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How fast is your 510 ????, must be good to beat a
911T
> :-?
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Feral Errol
> > > > > > > > > > > Get Serious tm<http://www.datrats.com.au/>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf
> Of
> > > > Maldat
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich i think.....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > well if he spent that much on a RB26 hes a fool
,cos
he
> > > could
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > built
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > RB31 for the same dosh
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I know a dude here running a 8 sec GTR ex Japanese
> G-Reddy
> > > car
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > didnt
> > > > > > > > > > > cost that much,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I fact anther freind is importing a ex nissan
group A
> R32
> > > GTR
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > > > > cost $20,000nz landed here.
> > > > > > > > > > > Ok he carnt rego it cos its a race car but  he's
going
> to
> > > part
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > make some dosh on it.
> > > > > > > > > > > For 1.2 m I'd rather have a mclaren  and tottal
whip a
> > > > > pussline's
> > > > > > > > > > arse,I've
> > > > > > > > > > > seen the video of a GTR R34 V's a Mclaren  ,,No
joke
the
> > > > skyline
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > slow.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > as for the 911T  My 510 is faster
> > > > > > > > > > > Malcolm
> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:03 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich i think.....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > No sparkly paint on it at all. Not much on it
all
> > really,
> > > > just
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > bare
> > > > > > > > > > > chassis
> > > > > > > > > > > > and a powerful RB26 haha. Malcolm, GTR700 has
run an
8
> > > > second
> > > > > 1/4
> > > > > > > > > mile.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Combined money spent 1.2m  maybe but not worth
sod
> > all..
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > No skyline would sell for over $500,000 thats
a
> joke,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > More than likey a big tax write off
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because you get the alloy all sparkly and
the
> > paint
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > custom
> > > > > > > > > > > doesnt
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mean its worth more at all.Just that some one
has
> too
> > > much
> > > > > money
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > throw
> > > > > > > > > > > > > around or they have a Japanese bank loan at 1%
> intrest
> > > > only
> > > > > .
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Malcolm
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "David Andrews"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:42 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: bit rich i think.....
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well apparently RH9 (www.rh9.com.au) and
GTR-700
> > > > > > > > > (www.exvitermini.com)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (R34 and R33 GTR's) combined are worth over
$1.2
> > > million.
> > > > Oh
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > > > > > both own brand spanking 911 Turbo's also.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13/06/03, 15:13:22, Robert Charles Scealy
wrote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding Re: bit rich i think.....:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, if anyone feels like throwing away some
> money,
> > > just
> > > > > email
> > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > list and I will give you my bank account
details.
> > Much
> > > > > easier.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Cleary Signs wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i know a guy who owns a $65K STI WRX and
spent
> > > another
> > > > > $100K
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on it, and was still going. all helps when
you
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > rich
> > > > > > > > > daddy!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heath
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   From: mark krawczuk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:32 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Subject: bit rich i think.....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   hi, wow, did any  body read  the latest
issue
> of
> > > > > street
> > > > > > > > > machine?
> > > > > > > > > > > (i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > think it was street machine??)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   some tosspot  has spent approx $131,000
on a
> > > > > > > > > > > commodore.........value
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for money??? i dont think so , who would spend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   that much??? any way u still look at it
its
> > stilla
> > > > > > > > > > COMMODORE.....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   also see the CAPA ads in the same mag?
$1400
> for
> > a
> > > > > holden
> > > > > > > > > > camshaft
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ..............???
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    what is this world coming to ?????
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    (;-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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