On Aug 30, 6:55 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I will vote my conscience, and, as Nader says: "The lesser of two
evils is still an evil."
On Aug 30, 6:58 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "... One can exercise their conscience by voting for the lesser
> evil."  - michael
>
> This, of course is a meme, mostly promulgated by the two major parties
> to maintain control. IF people in fact voted their conscience and
> ignored what others say about 'throwing your vote away', the 'major'
> parties would HAVE to be much more responsive to the citizenry.

Orn,

You are making a hypothetical. If elephants had big enough wings and
strong enough muscles to move them they could fly. As far as I am
concerened Bush stole Florida in 2000. Without Nader it would not have
been close enough for him to steal. I have not voted in most
presidential elections because I did not find a candidate. in any
party, who I wanted to be president over.There is currently no race in
Tennessee. I may not vote for President, but will probably vote for
other offices that are up for grabs, including congress. However, I
hope Obama wins, believeing he is the lesser evil by a factor of 100
or more. If the race becomes close in Tennessee I will vote for him.
That is my conscience.

On Aug 30, 6:58 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "... One can exercise their conscience by voting for the lesser
> evil."  - michael
>
> This, of course is a meme, mostly promulgated by the two major parties
> to maintain control. IF people in fact voted their conscience and
> ignored what others say about 'throwing your vote away', the 'major'
> parties would HAVE to be much more responsive to the citizenry.
>
> On Aug 30, 1:06 pm, Isparklaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Clog,
>
> > I wouldn't worry too much about who you vote for for president.
> > McCaine has a huge lead in Tennessee. However, if you goal is to
> > attain equal rights for Atheists, you might consider helping Obama any
> > way that you can. The dems have many problems, but they are by far the
> > lesser of two evils. One can exercise their conscience by voting for
> > the lesser evil.
>
> > On Aug 30, 2:48 pm, Clogtowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi y'all - much as I support the intent, I cannot bring myself to send
> > > money to the Democrats after the disgraceful Obama/McCain church
> > > interview. I'll keep my money and decide later whether to vote my
> > > conscience as I should, or vote for the lesser of two evils.
>
> > > On Aug 30, 2:44 pm, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > This is a link/article found on the Friendly Atheist site by Hemant
> > > > Mehta.
>
> > > > Elizabeth Dole Attacks Senate Opponent for Meeting with Atheists
> > > >  Posted by Hemant Mehta in General on 08 26th, 2008 |
>
> > > > North Carolina Senator Elizabeth Dole and her communications staff put
> > > > out a press release today criticizing her Democratic challenger Kay
> > > > Hagan.
>
> > > > What did Hagan do to deserve the criticism?
>
> > > > She plans to attend a fundraiser hosted by atheists.
>
> > > > On September 15th, Kay Hagan is heading to Boston, Massachusetts to
> > > > attend a fundraiser for her Senate campaign. What may surprise
> > > > mainstream North Carolinians is that the fundraiser will be in the
> > > > home of leading anti religion activists Wendy Kaminer and her lawyer
> > > > husband Woody Kaplan — who is an advisor to the “Godless Americans
> > > > Political Action Committee.”
>
> > > > …
>
> > > > Kaminer is also an advisory board member (Woody is the chairman) of
> > > > The Secular Coalition for America which is “the national lobby for
> > > > atheists, humanists, freethinkers and other nontheistic Americans with
> > > > the unique mission of protecting their civil rights.” (Secular
> > > > Coalition For America, Press Release, 1/16/08)
>
> > > > Kaminer’s husband, Woody Kaplan, is also an advisor to the Godless
> > > > Americans Political Action Committee which sees itself as a counter-
> > > > force to religious groups in public policy debates.
>
> > > > So, Republicans hate civil rights?
>
> > > > In fact, the Dole people think protecting rights for all people would
> > > > horrify North Carolinians.
>
> > > > You know why I say this?
>
> > > > Because Dole’s campaign says it right in the press release:
>
> > > > “Kay Hagan does not represent the values of this state; she is a
> > > > Trojan Horse for a long list of wacky left-wing outside groups bent on
> > > > policies that would horrify most North Carolinians if they knew about
> > > > it,” [Communications Director Dan] McLagan said. “This latest
> > > > revelation of support from anti-religion activists will not sit well
> > > > with the 90% of state residents who identify with a specific religious
> > > > faith.”
>
> > > > Actually, I think most people of faith would be fine if minority
> > > > groups received equal rights. I don’t know of any atheist groups
> > > > asking for special rights. We just want to be treated fairly and we
> > > > don’t want to see religious groups getting privileges the rest of us
> > > > cannot get.
>
> > > > Next, we’ll see the Dole campaign ripping on Hagan for “associating
> > > > with known Jews.”
>
> > > > That makes equally as much sense as this press release.
>
> > > > Chris Ray points out that North Carolinians aren’t as devout as the
> > > > Dole people would have us believe.
>
> > > > According to The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, 20% of people in
> > > > the state attend a worship service “seldom or never.”
>
> > > > Less than half the people in the state attend a weekly service.
>
> > > > The fact that the Dole people are using Hagan’s mere association with
> > > > atheists as a point of attack on her says a lot more about how
> > > > desperate and crooked they are than it does anything about Hagan.
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> > > > this is the first post by 
> > > > Hemant:http://friendlyatheist.com/4229/elizabeth-dole-attacks-senate-
> > > > opponent-
> > > > for-meeting- with-atheists/
>
> > > > This is today's 
> > > > posthttp://friendlyatheist.com/4272/email-to-the-elizabeth-dole-
> > > > campaign/
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> > > > stemcell
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