For the first one:
1)  endorse Separation of Church and State
many within the religious community already fully embrace this notion.
Perhaps helping them to network would be a practical start?

On Oct 4, 10:05 am, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <<What would "starting at the edge" look like in this case? >>
>
> For starters, persuade the religious community to
>
> 1)  endorse Separation of Church and State
> 2)  abandon creationism/intelligent design
>
> Both can be done without surrendering their core beliefs, and yet both
> would open up the religious to the real world.  Right now, many of
> them are sealed off, so you have no means of reaching them.
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