Hi y'all - here's an interesting Norwegian suicide table. It seems as
though they like hanging around over there.
http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/03/01/10/dodsarsak_en/tab-2008-06-27-09-en.html

On Oct 23, 10:06 am, "CrossBow CrossBow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Wonder what the data is on they type of suicide? anyone find that tidbit
> published? Is it drug related or firearms? or what? At least we know they
> are not worried about burning in Dante's Inferno because it dose not exist
> for them. Anyone know a Norwegian we can ask?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Clogtowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi y'all - Norway, which is normally the most quoted god free nation,
> > seems to have less than average suicide rates amongst Scandinavian
> > countries :
> >http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/
> > Skimming through the figures, I was beginning to think that it may be
> > a function of light and latitude, but then I saw that Australia has a
> > higher rate (they are upside down and a bunch of convicts.) I suppose
> > the fact that Norwegians generally have no belief in a god gives them
> > the freedom, without scruple, to take their own life as they see fit.
> > I'm sure there are many factors involved but, from the above figures,
> > Norway does not stand out as a hive of suiciders. Perhaps it is the
> > abundance of Norwegian Blue Parrots inhabiting the fiords that
> > stresses out the population in the area.
>
> > On Oct 22, 5:07 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I don't know about the D deficiency, although D deficiency is being
> > studied
> > > in relation to other illnesses such as M.S.  Southerners have a slightly
> > > lower risk of developing M.S., and I don't think it matters where you
> > were
> > > born originally.
>
> > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9316607Pubmednote
>
> > >http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/12/19/vitamin.d.ms/index.html
> >  CNN
>
> > > That's interesting about the relatively narrow distribution of suicide in
> > > Scandinavia.  I'll have to read more about the issue if I get the time.
> >  I'd
> > > like to see how the suicides in the surrounding areas measure up.
>
> > > Liz
>
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > CrossBow
> > > CrossBow
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:11 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Imagine a land where presidents don't sprinkle holy water on
> > > wars, citizens have good healthcare and governments care about the
> > > environment.
>
> > > vitamin D deficiency then? they need to mutate so they can survive or
> > chug
> > > vitamins.  That would be a consideration, but the problem has settle in a
> > > particular age range according to the research, younger 25-40 year olds
> > are
> > > the highest (my numbers may be off just a little).  Maybe there will be
> > > better research soon since it has drawn attention.
>
> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Liz Purkrabek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > I thought the suicide rates could be blamed on the less intense sunlight
> > to
> > > the area.  Humans, like many animals are affected by decreased sunlight.
>
> > > Liz
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
>
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > CrossBow
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:44 PM
> > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > > Subject: Imagine a land where presidents don't sprinkle holy water on
> > wars,
> > > citizens have good healthcare and governments care about the environment.
>
> > > this may have been discussed before here on this platform, but humor
> > > me - How did Scandinavia get to such a secular society? How do you
> > > fill the vacuum religion leaves behind when it is plucked out like the
> > > outdated evolutionary tool that it is?  what can we replace religous
> > > structure with? Groups like this work well.  But, why the high suicide
> > > rate in such a secular region? what can prevent it? where are the
> > > suicide rates coming from? a statistically reliable source? OR, did
> > > someone conveniently skew them?
>
> > >http://www.salon.com/books/review/2008/10/22/zuckerman/?source=newsle...
>
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> > > "The notion that religious belief is childish, that earnest prayer is
> > > something that only children engage in, and that faith in God is just
> > > something that one dabbles with in childhood, but eventually grows out
> > > of as one becomes a mature adult, would strike most Americans as
> > > offensive," writes Zuckerman (from the book "Society Without God")
> > > "But for millions of Scandinavians, that's just the way it is."
>
> > > BUT IT ALSO MENTIONS:
>
> > > Zuckerman isn't quite so eager to bring up the dark undercurrents of
> > > Scandinavian life: dismal weather, a heavy tax burden, low fertility,
> > > high alcoholism, a suicide rate twice that of America.
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