I think rape is more a crime of violence driven by an urge to exercise control of another rather than a crime stemming from sexual desire. It's more of a power thing than a sex thing I suspect. J.
Hi y'all - I agree that equality has little to do with the problem. Liz' example was extreme. Wearing hot pants on a chilly night in Whore street would rightly be seen as provocative. Wearing a Burka in the same location would probably scare everyone away. It is nature's way for the female to attract the male, (humans) and a display of attraction results in a magnetic response. Of course, then we proceed with "No, leave me alone" and "why are you wearing hot pants - you know you really want it." Evolution is a slow process and women are the weaker, and magnetic to men. I'm not suggesting Burka's. but common sense, until evolution dictates that, not unlike myself, men become as beautiful as women. I suppose that if women weren't attractive to men, there would be no rapes. I fail to see why a man would rape an 85 year old woman? I guess that's one for Jason. On Oct 25, 12:54 am, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "...If the lesson a woman learns from a rape is that she is denied > access to certain places by virtue of her being a woman then our > society has not progressed as far in the direction of equality as I > thought..." - Liz > > Hi Liz, > > While I find it a rather sad commentary on humanity as a whole, we > both know that there are many places where it is not safe for a person > to go w/o the possibility of rape. That just is. And, I'm not sure it > has much to do with the notion of equality either. > > On Oct 24, 6:06 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is not Saudi Arabia. A woman need not learn that there is any place > > that is off limits to her. > > > If the lesson a woman learns from a rape is that she is denied access to > > certain places by virtue of her being a woman then our society has not > > progressed as far in the direction of equality as I thought. > > > A woman can walk down Whore Street at three in the morning wearing hot pants > > and a tube top while swishing her long, auburn hair is opposition to her > > round, sultry hips and the only lesson she should learn is to bring a jacket > > next time if she's chilly. > > > We mustn't forget that men get raped too. I wasn't choosing a sex for my > > original statement. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > ornamentalmind > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:42 PM > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > Subject: Re: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice > > > Liz, while I'm sure your question is rhetorical and my response is in > > no way meant to be a global 'answer'...one could learn where not to > > be. > > > On Oct 24, 1:16 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "All memories, including the painful emotional memories, have their > > > purposes. We learn great lessons from those memories or experiences so we > > > can avoid making the same kinds of mistakes again, and help us to adapt > > down > > > the road," Tsien said in a telephone interview on Thursday. > > > > This man has evidently never been raped. What great lesson is there to be > > > learned from a rape that is worth the act? > > > > Liz > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CrossBow > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:17 AM > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > Subject: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice > > > > Scientists find way to erase memories in mice > > > By Will Dunham, Reuters > > > Thu Oct 23, 4:40 PM EDT > > > It seems like a movie plot, but scientists have developed a way to > > > erase specific memories in mice while leaving others intact and not > > > damaging the brain. > > > > By manipulating levels of an important protein in the brain, certain > > > memories can be selectively deleted, researchers led by neurobiologist > > > Joe Tsien of the Medical College of Georgia reported in the journal > > > Neuron. > > > > While some experts have suggested there could be value in erasing > > > certain memories in people such as wartime traumas, Tsien doubted this > > > could be done as it was in mice. Tsien also questioned the wisdom of > > > wiping out a person's memories. > > > > "All memories, including the painful emotional memories, have their > > > purposes. We learn great lessons from those memories or experiences so > > > we can avoid making the same kinds of mistakes again, and help us to > > > adapt down the road," Tsien said in a telephone interview on Thursday. > > > > The study focused on a protein called alpha-CaMKII involved in > > > learning and memory. The scientists manipulated alpha-CaMKII activity > > > in the brains of genetically modified mice to influence the retrieval > > > of short-term and long-term memories. > > > > Mice that were made to recall things such a mild electric shock at the > > > same time that the protein was turned up in their brain seemed to lose > > > the memory of the shock while not forgetting anything else, the > > > researchers said. > > > > "The human brain is so complex and dramatically different from the > > > mouse brain. That's why I say I don't think it's possible you can do > > > the same thing in humans," Tsien said. > > > > "However, if that happens in my lifetime, I wouldn't be surprised > > > either," Tsien added. > > > > The 2004 film "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" explored the > > > idea of selectively erasing memories. Two former lovers undergo > > > procedures to wipe out the memory of one another after their > > > relationship falls apart. > > > > "If one wants to get rid of a bad relationship with another person, > > > and is hoping to have a pill to erase that person or relationship, > > > it's not the solution," Tsien said.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! 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