I think you are wrong. I give men more credit than that. When we stop teaching our children that a woman must be protected from men and that men are slaves to their sexual urges (and not ultimately responsible for violent sexual acts), maybe we'll get somewhere.
Your statement conjures up the notion (although I understand unintentionally) that if a person is in the wrong place then they "had it coming" when he or she was attacked. That they had it coming is strongly implied. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ornamentalmind Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:55 AM To: Memphis Freethought Alliance Subject: Re: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice "...If the lesson a woman learns from a rape is that she is denied access to certain places by virtue of her being a woman then our society has not progressed as far in the direction of equality as I thought..." - Liz Hi Liz, While I find it a rather sad commentary on humanity as a whole, we both know that there are many places where it is not safe for a person to go w/o the possibility of rape. That just is. And, I'm not sure it has much to do with the notion of equality either. On Oct 24, 6:06 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not Saudi Arabia. A woman need not learn that there is any place > that is off limits to her. > > If the lesson a woman learns from a rape is that she is denied access to > certain places by virtue of her being a woman then our society has not > progressed as far in the direction of equality as I thought. > > A woman can walk down Whore Street at three in the morning wearing hot pants > and a tube top while swishing her long, auburn hair is opposition to her > round, sultry hips and the only lesson she should learn is to bring a jacket > next time if she's chilly. > > We mustn't forget that men get raped too. I wasn't choosing a sex for my > original statement. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > ornamentalmind > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:42 PM > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > Subject: Re: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice > > Liz, while I'm sure your question is rhetorical and my response is in > no way meant to be a global 'answer'...one could learn where not to > be. > > On Oct 24, 1:16 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "All memories, including the painful emotional memories, have their > > purposes. We learn great lessons from those memories or experiences so we > > can avoid making the same kinds of mistakes again, and help us to adapt > down > > the road," Tsien said in a telephone interview on Thursday. > > > This man has evidently never been raped. What great lesson is there to be > > learned from a rape that is worth the act? > > > Liz > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CrossBow > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:17 AM > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > Subject: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice > > > Scientists find way to erase memories in mice > > By Will Dunham, Reuters > > Thu Oct 23, 4:40 PM EDT > > It seems like a movie plot, but scientists have developed a way to > > erase specific memories in mice while leaving others intact and not > > damaging the brain. > > > By manipulating levels of an important protein in the brain, certain > > memories can be selectively deleted, researchers led by neurobiologist > > Joe Tsien of the Medical College of Georgia reported in the journal > > Neuron. > > > While some experts have suggested there could be value in erasing > > certain memories in people such as wartime traumas, Tsien doubted this > > could be done as it was in mice. Tsien also questioned the wisdom of > > wiping out a person's memories. > > > "All memories, including the painful emotional memories, have their > > purposes. We learn great lessons from those memories or experiences so > > we can avoid making the same kinds of mistakes again, and help us to > > adapt down the road," Tsien said in a telephone interview on Thursday. > > > The study focused on a protein called alpha-CaMKII involved in > > learning and memory. The scientists manipulated alpha-CaMKII activity > > in the brains of genetically modified mice to influence the retrieval > > of short-term and long-term memories. > > > Mice that were made to recall things such a mild electric shock at the > > same time that the protein was turned up in their brain seemed to lose > > the memory of the shock while not forgetting anything else, the > > researchers said. > > > "The human brain is so complex and dramatically different from the > > mouse brain. That's why I say I don't think it's possible you can do > > the same thing in humans," Tsien said. > > > "However, if that happens in my lifetime, I wouldn't be surprised > > either," Tsien added. > > > The 2004 film "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" explored the > > idea of selectively erasing memories. Two former lovers undergo > > procedures to wipe out the memory of one another after their > > relationship falls apart. > > > "If one wants to get rid of a bad relationship with another person, > > and is hoping to have a pill to erase that person or relationship, > > it's not the solution," Tsien said.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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