"...If the lesson a woman learns from a rape is that she is denied
access to certain places by virtue of her being a woman then our
society has not progressed as far in the direction of equality as I
thought..." - Liz

Hi Liz,

While I find it a rather sad commentary on humanity as a whole, we
both know that there are many places where it is not safe for a person
to go w/o the possibility of rape. That just is. And, I'm not sure it
has much to do with the notion of equality either.

On Oct 24, 6:06 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is not Saudi Arabia.  A woman need not learn that there is any place
> that is off limits to her.  
>
> If the lesson a woman learns from a rape is that she is denied access to
> certain places by virtue of her being a woman then our society has not
> progressed as far in the direction of equality as I thought.
>
> A woman can walk down Whore Street at three in the morning wearing hot pants
> and a tube top while swishing her long, auburn hair is opposition to her
> round, sultry hips and the only lesson she should learn is to bring a jacket
> next time if she's chilly.
>
>  We mustn't forget that men get raped too. I wasn't choosing a sex for my
> original statement.
>
>
>
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> ornamentalmind
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> Subject: Re: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice
>
> Liz, while I'm sure your question is rhetorical and my response is in
> no way meant to be a global 'answer'...one could learn where not to
> be.
>
> On Oct 24, 1:16 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "All memories, including the painful emotional memories, have their
> > purposes. We learn great lessons from those memories or experiences so we
> > can avoid making the same kinds of mistakes again, and help us to adapt
> down
> > the road," Tsien said in a telephone interview on Thursday.
>
> > This man has evidently never been raped.  What great lesson is there to be
> > learned from a rape that is worth the act?
>
> > Liz
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CrossBow
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 9:17 AM
> > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> > Subject: Scientists find way to erase memories in mice
>
> > Scientists find way to erase memories in mice
> > By Will Dunham, Reuters
> > Thu Oct 23, 4:40 PM EDT
> > It seems like a movie plot, but scientists have developed a way to
> > erase specific memories in mice while leaving others intact and not
> > damaging the brain.
>
> > By manipulating levels of an important protein in the brain, certain
> > memories can be selectively deleted, researchers led by neurobiologist
> > Joe Tsien of the Medical College of Georgia reported in the journal
> > Neuron.
>
> > While some experts have suggested there could be value in erasing
> > certain memories in people such as wartime traumas, Tsien doubted this
> > could be done as it was in mice. Tsien also questioned the wisdom of
> > wiping out a person's memories.
>
> > "All memories, including the painful emotional memories, have their
> > purposes. We learn great lessons from those memories or experiences so
> > we can avoid making the same kinds of mistakes again, and help us to
> > adapt down the road," Tsien said in a telephone interview on Thursday.
>
> > The study focused on a protein called alpha-CaMKII involved in
> > learning and memory. The scientists manipulated alpha-CaMKII activity
> > in the brains of genetically modified mice to influence the retrieval
> > of short-term and long-term memories.
>
> > Mice that were made to recall things such a mild electric shock at the
> > same time that the protein was turned up in their brain seemed to lose
> > the memory of the shock while not forgetting anything else, the
> > researchers said.
>
> > "The human brain is so complex and dramatically different from the
> > mouse brain. That's why I say I don't think it's possible you can do
> > the same thing in humans," Tsien said.
>
> > "However, if that happens in my lifetime, I wouldn't be surprised
> > either," Tsien added.
>
> > The 2004 film "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" explored the
> > idea of selectively erasing memories. Two former lovers undergo
> > procedures to wipe out the memory of one another after their
> > relationship falls apart.
>
> > "If one wants to get rid of a bad relationship with another person,
> > and is hoping to have a pill to erase that person or relationship,
> > it's not the solution," Tsien said.- Hide quoted text -
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