Dear friends: I'm looking for some local input on the story below. Here are my questions:
1. What do you think about this vote? Good thing or bad? Why? 2. What do you think will happen next with regard to gay marriage, not just in California, but in the nation generally? I'm coming to you with this because I have lots of contacts among the religious and gay communities who are likely to base their views on this subject on faith or vested interests, and I'm looking for someone to give us a take on this that doesn't view the world through those prisms. I must finish this by 5 p.m. today. Sorry for the short notice. Thanks! Calif. voters approve gay-marriage ban Eds: APNewsNow. LOS ANGELES - California voters have approved a constitutional amendment outlawing same-sex marriage, overturning the state Supreme Court decision that gave gay couples the right to wed just months ago. The passage of Proposition 8 represents a crushing political defeat for gay rights activists, who had hoped public opinion on the contentious issue had shifted enough to help them defeat the measure. It also represents a personal loss for the thousands of couples from California and others states who got married in the brief window when they could. Legal experts have said it will have to be resolved in court whether their unions still are valid. AP-CS-11-05-08 1247EST Mark Watson Staff reporter The Commercial Appeal 495 Union Ave. Memphis, TN 38103 (901) 529-5874 Cell: (901) 212-3003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CrossBow Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Excessive Name Calling and Repeated Personal Attacks Can we call a truce and start over sans anything resembling negative labels? On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: "BBDD is mentally ill: probably BI-POLAR". REMEMBER THAT ONE? I didn't post that. You did! Neither did I refer to you as paranoid atheists. I make a valid point that atheism, or any self labeling, is just another faith. Any self labeling, whether it be pagan, Christian, or atheist absolutely prevents freethought. One is limiting themselves to the paradigm without accepting that paradigms are limiting. Such a position is NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK. Neither do I call anyone names. If you come off attacking me like juveniles, I will return in kind. It is just holding up a mirror. I merely do it more effectively by bringing it up to an if/then adult level. If you pointlessly, personally attack me then you are juvenile. If/then. It is an attack against the behavior. I am not saying yo momma is anything. http://niggerwise.com <http://niggerwise.com/> On Nov 5, 2:06 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Those criticisms are fine. Or, you can even label us as "paranoid > atheists" and explain why you think this label is appropriate. Those > kinds of criticisms aren't the issue. The problem is the excessive > name calling, repeated personal attacks in addition to attempting to > push people's emotion buttons to provoke a personal attack against you > personally and not your ideas. So critcize all you want--just don't > make it personal and instead focus on the ideas. This rule applies to > everyone. > > On Nov 5, 1:52 pm, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > It seems, Jason, you began all this. "BBDD is mentally ill: probably > > BI-POLAR". REMEMBER THAT ONE? > > > You do what you need to do to continue pretending to be free thinkers. > > It is not a personal attack to suggest that those who would purposely > > insult a new comer here are more Palinist than free thinkers. I would > > suggest you ban me from your little church here... or apologize. > > Either choice will define yourself... not me. I will simply move on > > and use all I have copied here as object lessons elsewhere. We niggers > > don't train well. A degree of obstinacy is essential to free thought. > > >http://niggerwise.com <http://niggerwise.com/> > > > On Nov 5, 1:39 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > This forum is for exchanging ideas and critiquing another person's > > > ideas-- > > > not excessive name calling and repeated personal attacks. Cut out > > > the > > > excessive name calling, or you will be cut from this group. This > > > goes > > > for everyone. > > > > Jason- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
