Mark, it is not about gay rights or religion. It comes down to a question of whether we should govern how love is expressed any more than we should govern a woman's body.
http://niggerwise.com On Nov 5, 2:37 pm, "Watson, Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends: > > I'm looking for some local input on the story below. Here are my > questions: > > 1. What do you think about this vote? Good thing or bad? Why? > > 2. What do you think will happen next with regard to gay marriage, not > just in California, but in the nation generally? > > I'm coming to you with this because I have lots of contacts among the > religious and gay communities who are likely to base their views on this > subject on faith or vested interests, and I'm looking for someone to > give us a take on this that doesn't view the world through those prisms. > > I must finish this by 5 p.m. today. Sorry for the short notice. > > Thanks! > > Calif. voters approve gay-marriage ban > > Eds: APNewsNow. > > LOS ANGELES - California voters have approved a constitutional amendment > outlawing same-sex marriage, overturning the state Supreme Court > decision that gave gay couples the right to wed just months ago. > > The passage of Proposition 8 represents a crushing political defeat for > gay rights activists, who had hoped public opinion on the contentious > issue had shifted enough to help them defeat the measure. > > It also represents a personal loss for the thousands of couples from > California and others states who got married in the brief window when > they could. Legal experts have said it will have to be resolved in court > whether their unions still are valid. > > AP-CS-11-05-08 1247EST > > Mark Watson > > Staff reporter > > The Commercial Appeal > > 495 Union Ave. > > Memphis, TN 38103 > > (901) 529-5874 > > Cell: (901) 212-3003 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > CrossBow > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Excessive Name Calling and Repeated Personal Attacks > > Can we call a truce and start over sans anything resembling negative > labels? > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > "BBDD is mentally ill: probably BI-POLAR". REMEMBER THAT ONE? I > didn't > post that. You did! Neither did I refer to you as paranoid > atheists. I > make a valid point that atheism, or any self labeling, is just > another > faith. Any self labeling, whether it be pagan, Christian, or > atheist > absolutely prevents freethought. One is limiting themselves to > the > paradigm without accepting that paradigms are limiting. Such a > position is NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK. Neither do I call anyone > names. If > you come off attacking me like juveniles, I will return in kind. > It is > just holding up a mirror. I merely do it more effectively by > bringing > it up to an if/then adult level. If you pointlessly, personally > attack > me then you are juvenile. If/then. It is an attack against the > behavior. I am not saying yo momma is anything. > > http://niggerwise.com<http://niggerwise.com/> > > On Nov 5, 2:06 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > Those criticisms are fine. Or, you can even label us as > "paranoid > > atheists" and explain why you think this label is > appropriate. Those > > kinds of criticisms aren't the issue. The problem is the > excessive > > name calling, repeated personal attacks in addition to > attempting to > > push people's emotion buttons to provoke a personal attack > against you > > personally and not your ideas. So critcize all you want--just > don't > > make it personal and instead focus on the ideas. This rule > applies to > > everyone. > > > > On Nov 5, 1:52 pm, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It seems, Jason, you began all this. "BBDD is mentally ill: > probably > > > BI-POLAR". REMEMBER THAT ONE? > > > > > You do what you need to do to continue pretending to be free > thinkers. > > > It is not a personal attack to suggest that those who would > purposely > > > insult a new comer here are more Palinist than free > thinkers. I would > > > suggest you ban me from your little church here... or > apologize. > > > Either choice will define yourself... not me. I will simply > move on > > > and use all I have copied here as object lessons elsewhere. > We niggers > > > don't train well. A degree of obstinacy is essential to free > thought. > > > > >http://niggerwise.com<http://niggerwise.com/> > > > > > On Nov 5, 1:39 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > This forum is for exchanging ideas and critiquing another > person's > > > > ideas-- > > > > not excessive name calling and repeated personal attacks. > Cut out > > > > the > > > > excessive name calling, or you will be cut from this > group. This > > > > goes > > > > for everyone. > > > > > > Jason- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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