The vote is a good thing. Screw those that voted for it, but still it is good. The vote was close. It gets closer all the time and the more it gets voted on, even if reason does not prevail, the more ridiculous the restrictionists look. Most of the financing supporting that bill came from out of state… most from a state formed to marry as one sees fit, Utah. I don't think it is over. I expect a court will rule now on if one state can vote on such rights as defined by a court ruling. This is only the early stages in a long battle.
http://niggerwise.com On Nov 5, 2:37 pm, "Watson, Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends: > > I'm looking for some local input on the story below. Here are my > questions: > > 1. What do you think about this vote? Good thing or bad? Why? > > 2. What do you think will happen next with regard to gay marriage, not > just in California, but in the nation generally? > > I'm coming to you with this because I have lots of contacts among the > religious and gay communities who are likely to base their views on this > subject on faith or vested interests, and I'm looking for someone to > give us a take on this that doesn't view the world through those prisms. > > I must finish this by 5 p.m. today. Sorry for the short notice. > > Thanks! > > Calif. voters approve gay-marriage ban > > Eds: APNewsNow. > > LOS ANGELES - California voters have approved a constitutional amendment > outlawing same-sex marriage, overturning the state Supreme Court > decision that gave gay couples the right to wed just months ago. > > The passage of Proposition 8 represents a crushing political defeat for > gay rights activists, who had hoped public opinion on the contentious > issue had shifted enough to help them defeat the measure. > > It also represents a personal loss for the thousands of couples from > California and others states who got married in the brief window when > they could. Legal experts have said it will have to be resolved in court > whether their unions still are valid. > > AP-CS-11-05-08 1247EST > > Mark Watson > > Staff reporter > > The Commercial Appeal > > 495 Union Ave. > > Memphis, TN 38103 > > (901) 529-5874 > > Cell: (901) 212-3003 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > CrossBow > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Excessive Name Calling and Repeated Personal Attacks > > Can we call a truce and start over sans anything resembling negative > labels? > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:21 PM, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > "BBDD is mentally ill: probably BI-POLAR". REMEMBER THAT ONE? I > didn't > post that. You did! Neither did I refer to you as paranoid > atheists. I > make a valid point that atheism, or any self labeling, is just > another > faith. Any self labeling, whether it be pagan, Christian, or > atheist > absolutely prevents freethought. One is limiting themselves to > the > paradigm without accepting that paradigms are limiting. Such a > position is NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK. Neither do I call anyone > names. If > you come off attacking me like juveniles, I will return in kind. > It is > just holding up a mirror. I merely do it more effectively by > bringing > it up to an if/then adult level. If you pointlessly, personally > attack > me then you are juvenile. If/then. It is an attack against the > behavior. I am not saying yo momma is anything. > > http://niggerwise.com<http://niggerwise.com/> > > On Nov 5, 2:06 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > Those criticisms are fine. Or, you can even label us as > "paranoid > > atheists" and explain why you think this label is > appropriate. Those > > kinds of criticisms aren't the issue. The problem is the > excessive > > name calling, repeated personal attacks in addition to > attempting to > > push people's emotion buttons to provoke a personal attack > against you > > personally and not your ideas. So critcize all you want--just > don't > > make it personal and instead focus on the ideas. This rule > applies to > > everyone. > > > > On Nov 5, 1:52 pm, BBDD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It seems, Jason, you began all this. "BBDD is mentally ill: > probably > > > BI-POLAR". REMEMBER THAT ONE? > > > > > You do what you need to do to continue pretending to be free > thinkers. > > > It is not a personal attack to suggest that those who would > purposely > > > insult a new comer here are more Palinist than free > thinkers. I would > > > suggest you ban me from your little church here... or > apologize. > > > Either choice will define yourself... not me. I will simply > move on > > > and use all I have copied here as object lessons elsewhere. > We niggers > > > don't train well. A degree of obstinacy is essential to free > thought. > > > > >http://niggerwise.com<http://niggerwise.com/> > > > > > On Nov 5, 1:39 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > This forum is for exchanging ideas and critiquing another > person's > > > > ideas-- > > > > not excessive name calling and repeated personal attacks. > Cut out > > > > the > > > > excessive name calling, or you will be cut from this > group. This > > > > goes > > > > for everyone. > > > > > > Jason- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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