You entirely misread me when you assign an ‘anti business’ attitude in my direction. I have owned small businesses. I have been CFO of a manufacturing firm. I have worked for a University, non-profit organizations, as an independent contractor etc.
I am anti-propaganda which is what is found on most corporate infotainment ‘news’ programs. During my lifetime, I’ve seen gross changes in the way the media presents and collects information. The news agencies have become trusts, monopolies and consortiums. They have been deregulated in many of the more important areas assuring that precious little actual news is presented. Decades ago, I could learn some things from watching/listening to news programs. Today, not so much. I am against the new influx of public money into the corporate and multinational coffers. And, especially so since there have been little to no restraints as to how the ‘gift’ (not loan) is to be spent. Again, IF the government were to actually nationalize the banks, auto industry etc. which would be one possible return on such a large investment, we could expand the discussion. Also, IF what were happening is that the government is in fact purchasing stock, again we could discuss this further. That is not what is happening. As an aside, corporations are not democracies. They are dictatorships. Just try to cross them! Nader used to be able to. Laws have changed and he can’t do this any more. Since the deregulation of how those who lobby the US congress has become almost total, we have shifted to what can truly be called a fascist form of government in the tradition of Benito Mussolini's Italy. It can also be called an oligarchy. While this can be seen as hyperbole, when more carefully examined, the components are all there. Those who haven't lived through the last half century may not have as much experience living in different political environments. And, since you have analyzed my bias, I will suggest strongly that your view is not only grossly simplistic and ignores most of the larger picture, it would seem that you use these simplistic views to support whatever point you start out to make without much/any room for a discussion. I would prefer the latter…a discussion. And, like the omnipresent propaganda of the current ‘big brother’ which includes the very notion of as well as the manifestation of Corporations, I tire of such attempts at imposing a singular and supportive of vested interests view. This is what Noam was talking about in the video when he discussed two forms of democracy and that the current view is in fact a dictatorship. Yes, I know I’m conflating my original post and rants with the Chomsky video. I find them to be compatible. On a different board, I posted this quote from a movie. The components and ethos differ somewhat today, but the tenor doesn’t. “So, does this quitation from the 1976 movie, Network, still hold water? "Arthur Jensen: [bellowing] You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it! Is that clear? You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance! You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU...WILL...ATONE!"” *** pushes soapbox back under the couch ending the most recent rant *** On Nov 24, 4:46 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are losing money!!! Cartels can price where they wish and make > lots of money. > > Your anti-business bias seems to really distort your perceptions on > this issue. (IMHO, of course.) > > On Nov 24, 6:01 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Truth by fiat seldom is questioned by the one who makes the > > proclamation. > > > On Nov 24, 3:47 pm, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Everything you post contradicts your point of view: > > > > ===== > > > cartel: > > > an association of manufacturers or suppliers formed to MAINTAIN HIGH > > > PRICES and RESTRICT COMPETITION. > > > ===== > > > > This DOES NOT OCCUR IN THE US MARKET.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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