And just why has the manufacturing base of the US been eroded?

hint: don't try to blame the workers

On Dec 12, 12:52 pm, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi y'all - to put it in a nutshell, the manufacturing base of this
> country has been eroded to the point where all tokens outside the
> casino are worthless. Even the eucharist is only worth half its
> original value and it is made in China.
>
> On Dec 12, 2:23 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Some of those statements are extreme such as claiming that no regard
> > was taken for the long-term production, etc.
>
> > On Dec 12, 2:20 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I sent this as a letter to the editor for the Memphis Flyer, which
> > > will hopefully generate some more discussion.  I just based this off
> > > of "The Token Economy: A Motivational System for Therapy and
> > > Rehabilitation" by Teodoro Ayllon and Nathan Azrin.  It may not
> > > entirely fit but experimental analysis of how to motivate people to
> > > engage in tasks by giving them slips of paper with token values may
> > > serve as an okay model for our economy as a whole.
>
> > > Jason
>
> > > "OUR TOKEN ECONOMY"
>
> > > I think that most people understand what is happening with our
> > > economy.  You can conduct a complex analysis of the equally
> > > complicated market but the simple truth still plays a major role, that
> > > is, our tokens (money) are exchanged for wanted goods and services.
> > > Since we no longer support the gold standard, our tokens will be
> > > worthless in the United States and the world economy if valuable goods
> > > and services can’t back them up.
>
> > > As I see it, a few major mechanisms are at play.  First, big
> > > government has created a massive and expensive bureaucratic system,
> > > which the private companies and taxpayers must support.  You need
> > > government but our government can’t and shouldn’t be expected to do
> > > everything.  Second, Wall Street has accumulated too many tokens in
> > > the hands of too few individuals and these Wall Street individuals
> > > have given these tokens to other individuals who aren’t producing a
> > > lot of goods and services in exchange for these tokens—bad
> > > investment.  Remember that token values are primarily based on what
> > > goods and services can be exchanged for these tokens and the tokens
> > > themselves are inherently worthless.  Third, Wall Street and the
> > > average investor have liquidated many production institutions
> > > (companies) through mergers and other schemes to gain quick profits
> > > without any regard to the effects on long-term production of valuable
> > > goods and services.  Fourth, Wall Street and the average investor have
> > > undermined the free market forces by determining (in contrast to
> > > allowing buyers to control) the fate of a company by its ability to
> > > make a fast profit while ignoring its ability to produce value goods
> > > and services.    This climate has lead to an obsession with tokens and
> > > a blind eye to what makes those tokens valuable: accompanying goods
> > > and services.
>
> > > In my opinion, we need to focus on the basics.  First, the government
> > > has no choice but to inject tokens back into workers’ pockets to avoid
> > > freezing the financial systems or disrupting the delicate exchange of
> > > tokens for good and services.  Second, we should (once again) focus on
> > > producing valuable goods and services.  That means that we have to
> > > continue to acquire skills and work hard with the more people working
> > > (instead of social-loafing) the better.  Third, we cannot continue to
> > > act as if more tokens without accompanying sellable goods and services
> > > will somehow increase the value of our tokens.  That is unrealistic.
> > > If money determined a country’s wealth, each African country could
> > > become extraordinarily wealthy by solely manufacturing paper and
> > > coined money.
>
> > > In sum, we need to start focusing more on the production of valuable
> > > goods and services and respect but stop obsessing over tokens.- Hide 
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