Yes, China doesn't have unions. We have unions. Unions make it possible for non-union workers who make a third of their income to buy $10,000.00 cars for $30,000.00 and pay 3X more in interest. What effect does dramatically higher labor cost have on our loss of jobs to overseas (and the erosion of our manufacturing base), the standard of living for non union workers and the economy as a whole? J.
humanis, China doesn't have unions. On Dec 12, 6:48 pm, [email protected] wrote: > Unions! > > J. > > And just why has the manufacturing base of the US been eroded? > > hint: don't try to blame the workers > > On Dec 12, 12:52 pm, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi y'all - to put it in a nutshell, the manufacturing base of this > > country has been eroded to the point where all tokens outside the > > casino are worthless. Even the eucharist is only worth half its > > original value and it is made in China. > > > On Dec 12, 2:23 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Some of those statements are extreme such as claiming that no regard > > > was taken for the long-term production, etc. > > > > On Dec 12, 2:20 pm, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > I sent this as a letter to the editor for the Memphis Flyer, which > > > > will hopefully generate some more discussion. I just based this off > > > > of "The Token Economy: A Motivational System for Therapy and > > > > Rehabilitation" by Teodoro Ayllon and Nathan Azrin. It may not > > > > entirely fit but experimental analysis of how to motivate people to > > > > engage in tasks by giving them slips of paper with token values may > > > > serve as an okay model for our economy as a whole. > > > > > Jason > > > > > "OUR TOKEN ECONOMY" > > > > > I think that most people understand what is happening with our > > > > economy. You can conduct a complex analysis of the equally > > > > complicated market but the simple truth still plays a major role, that > > > > is, our tokens (money) are exchanged for wanted goods and services. > > > > Since we no longer support the gold standard, our tokens will be > > > > worthless in the United States and the world economy if valuable goods > > > > and services can’t back them up. > > > > > As I see it, a few major mechanisms are at play. First, big > > > > government has created a massive and expensive bureaucratic system, > > > > which the private companies and taxpayers must support. You need > > > > government but our government can’t and shouldn’t be expected to do > > > > everything. Second, Wall Street has accumulated too many tokens in > > > > the hands of too few individuals and these Wall Street individuals > > > > have given these tokens to other individuals who aren’t producing a > > > > lot of goods and services in exchange for these tokens—bad > > > > investment. Remember that token values are primarily based on what > > > > goods and services can be exchanged for these tokens and the tokens > > > > themselves are inherently worthless. Third, Wall Street and the > > > > average investor have liquidated many production institutions > > > > (companies) through mergers and other schemes to gain quick profits > > > > without any regard to the effects on long-term production of valuable > > > > goods and services. Fourth, Wall Street and the average investor have > > > > undermined the free market forces by determining (in contrast to > > > > allowing buyers to control) the fate of a company by its ability to > > > > make a fast profit while ignoring its ability to produce value goods > > > > and services. This climate has lead to an obsession with tokens and > > > > a blind eye to what makes those tokens valuable: accompanying goods > > > > and services. > > > > > In my opinion, we need to focus on the basics. First, the government > > > > has no choice but to inject tokens back into workers’ pockets to avoid > > > > freezing the financial systems or disrupting the delicate exchange of > > > > tokens for good and services. Second, we should (once again) focus on > > > > producing valuable goods and services. That means that we have to > > > > continue to acquire skills and work hard with the more people working > > > > (instead of social-loafing) the better. Third, we cannot continue to > > > > act as if more tokens without accompanying sellable goods and services > > > > will somehow increase the value of our tokens. That is unrealistic. > > > > If money determined a country’s wealth, each African country could > > > > become extraordinarily wealthy by solely manufacturing paper and > > > > coined money. > > > > > In sum, we need to start focusing more on the production of valuable > > > > goods and services and respect but stop obsessing over tokens.- Hide > quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolco...)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. 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