Perhaps you could use this reference next time.... http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
On Jan 20, 9:03 am, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi y'all - yes I've been discussing this on another board. To support > my argument that Jesus is/was perfect, I quoted 1 Peter 2:22 "He > committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth." > The very underhand Rick replied by pointing out various verses in the > bible, too numerous to list, which contradict this, showing Jesus' > treatment of family, friends and fig trees etc. > I was shocked to learn of these contradictions in the bible. I also > think it was grossly unfair of Rick to point them out in public. I was > forced to eat my words and revise my whole opinion of Jesus. I'm > trying to find in my heart the forgiveness that Rick probably feels he > deserves. > I fart in his general direction! > > On Jan 19, 6:25 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Would you like to expand on that clog? > > > On Jan 19, 12:55 pm, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi y'all - only Jesus is/was perfect! > > > > On Jan 19, 2:16 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Of course, the unsanitized MLK, like Bill, loved to 'sleep around' > > > > too. > > > > > On Jan 19, 11:54 am, Rick S <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > So many people remember Martin Luther King Jr. in the sanitized way > > > > > that network television presents him. We are shown excerpts of his "I > > > > > have a Dream" or "Been to the Mountaintop" speeches. But he was also > > > > > an ardent advocate of peace and of ending the war in Vietnam. > > > > > > One of his best speeches was also one of the most criticized. Time > > > > > magazine and the Washington Post stopped short of calling him a > > > > > traitor to the nation. If their editors were to re-read his speech > > > > > today, they would recognize it as one of the most powerful speeches > > > > > against militarism ever. I believe it is one of his best speeches and > > > > > I wish more peoiple would read it in its entirety. So, for those who > > > > > would like to understand more about the real MLK, I will provide a > > > > > link http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/19-13. > > > > > > For those who do not wish to read a long speech, I will include some > > > > > of my favorite excerpts: > > > > > > "A time comes when silence is betrayal." That time has come for us in > > > > > relation to Vietnam." > > > > > > " There is at the outset a very obvious and almost facile connection > > > > > between the war in Vietnam and the struggle I, and others, have been > > > > > waging in America. A few years ago there was a shining moment in that > > > > > struggle. It seemed as if there was a real promise of hope for the > > > > > poor -- both black and white -- through the poverty program. There > > > > > were experiments, hopes, new beginnings. Then came the buildup in > > > > > Vietnam and I watched the program broken and eviscerated as if it were > > > > > some idle political plaything of a society gone mad on war, and I knew > > > > > that America would never invest the necessary funds or energies in > > > > > rehabilitation of its poor so long as adventures like Vietnam > > > > > continued to draw men and skills and money like some demonic > > > > > destructive suction tube. So I was increasingly compelled to see the > > > > > war as an enemy of the poor and to attack it as such." > > > > > > "As I have walked among the desperate, rejected and angry young men I > > > > > have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their > > > > > problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while > > > > > maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully > > > > > through nonviolent action. But they asked -- and rightly so -- what > > > > > about Vietnam? They asked if our own nation wasn't using massive doses > > > > > of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it > > > > > wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again > > > > > raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos > > > > > without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of > > > > > violence in the world today -- my own government. For the sake of > > > > > those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of hundreds > > > > > of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent. " > > > > > > "This I believe to be the privilege and the burden of all of us who > > > > > deem ourselves bound by allegiances and loyalties which are broader > > > > > and deeper than nationalism and which go beyond our nation's self- > > > > > defined goals and positions. We are called to speak for the weak, for > > > > > the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy, > > > > > for no document from human hands can make these humans any less our > > > > > brothers." > > > > > > "I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world > > > > > revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of > > > > > values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" > > > > > society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, > > > > > profit motives and property rights are considered more important than > > > > > people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are > > > > > incapable of being conquered. " > > > > > > "We are now faced with the fact that tomorrow is today. We are > > > > > confronted with the fierce urgency of now. In this unfolding conundrum > > > > > of life and history there is such a thing as being too late. > > > > > Procrastination is still the thief of time. Life often leaves us > > > > > standing bare, naked and dejected with a lost opportunity. The "tide > > > > > in the affairs of men" does not remain at the flood; it ebbs. We may > > > > > cry out deperately for time to pause in her passage, but time is deaf > > > > > to every plea and rushes on. Over the bleached bones and jumbled > > > > > residue of numerous civilizations are written the pathetic words: "Too > > > > > late." There is an invisible book of life that faithfully records our > > > > > vigilance or our neglect. "The moving finger writes, and having writ > > > > > moves on..." We still have a choice today; nonviolent coexistence or > > > > > violent co-annihilation." > > > > > > Rick S- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
