>Curt wrote:
>Actually it reads more like small and slow vs. big and slow. I like >shooting 
>a .38, there are many well balanced comfortable .38s but >they've got zip for 
>stopping power even compared to the 9mm.

Yes they were having poor results with the .38 colt. (I don't know how it 
compares to .38,.38super or 9mm of today)  But they were also having problems 
with the 30-40 Krag. Which is small and fast (somewhere between a 30-30 and 308)

The Americans had become acquainted with the Juramentado. "A Moro who had 
worked himself up to religious fanaticism and goes forth to kill all 
unbelievers in Mohammadanism until he himself is killed." It took some killing 
(Capt.) Wood watched as - A Moro rushed out of the tall grass ... and made a 
beeline for one of our flankers. The man emptied his rifle into the Moro, but 
he came bounding on and did not stop... That was why the war Dept. recalled its 
.38 caliber Colt and Smith and Wesson revolvers from the Philippines and 
substituted the heavier Colt .45

"The man emptied his rifle into the Moro" The rifle is the 30-40 Krag. It holds 
5 rounds. I borrowed one( 30-40 Krag) years ago during a Deer season when I 
tried hunting outside my usual shotgun only county. Killed a 195lb 6-point at 
150yds with one shot. It took about 3 steps and dropped.

...he was finally felled by a .45 slug through both ears... He had thirty-two 
Krag balls through him and was only stopped by the Colt .45 - the thirty-third 
bullet.

"He had thirty-two Krag balls through him"  This is also the 30-40 Krag rifle. 
They seemed  be able to stop these guys after they reissued the old single 
action Hoglegs in .45 Long Colt, which is very close to the .45 ACP

I think even though small and fast cartridges look better on paper, you need to 
consider the amount of energy lost with the bullet when exiting the body. The 
.357 is a good example of a over penetrating round. 

My opinion is that Big and Slow delivers more energy to the body. I prefer any 
well made 1911 model in .45ACP. They are accurate(I can hit pop cans at 25yds 
every time I pull the trigger all day long) They are easy to shoot and teach 
someone else to shoot (single action trigger pull) If you use the right ammo 
and well made clips, they are very reliable and have less recoil than any .357 
I've shot.   Russ H.



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