another thing to keep in mind is that we don't simply shoot bullets, we shoot guns, that shoot bullets. Ballistics is one part of a hundred other considerations when chosing a handgun for self defense, either home or concealed carry.
Cartidge A may be more effective than cartridge B, but if you don;t carry becuaes the gun is too heavy, can;t pull the slide back, cant hit target cuz of recoil (or fear of it) can't hit the target b/c the trigger pull is so hard on a revolver, or the grip is too big, too small, gun too heavy in the front, etc, etc, etc. Hency, I love my PPK/S cuz it's just right for me. Chrstopher --- JabbaHursty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it's an endless source of debate, but there seems > more to it than > calculating simple force > > i tend to be in the big and slow camp. 230grain > hollowpoint .45 > ACP is my choice for carry. in terms of a defensive > handgun, my > thought is .45 ACP or .357 magnum > > i just got the casull to be stupid. i do intend to > get proficient > with it though, but i don't imagine it will ever be > a practical > defensive weapon > > > > At 04:27 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: > > >The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who > are bad at math. > >Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm > is MUCH higher > >velocity than the .45 with insignificantly less > mass. The 9mm simply > >has more stopping power with less recoil and weight > than the .45. > > > >.44 Mag has PLENTY of stopping power, more than the > .50 IIRC but it > >also has PLENTY of recoil unless you've got a heavy > gun or some sort > >of recoil reducing device. > > > > > > > >-Curt > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:04:54 -0400 > >From: JabbaHursty > ><<http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL >PROTECTED]&YY=2422&order=down&sort=date&pos=0>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete) > >To: Mercedes mailing list > ><<http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL >PROTECTED]&YY=2422&order=down&sort=date&pos=0>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Message-ID: > ><<http://us.f328.mail.yahoo.com/ym/[EMAIL >PROTECTED]&YY=2422&order=down&sort=date&pos=0>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; > format=flowed > > > >9mm is for euro girlie men. .45 for real americans > > > > > ><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=34442/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs>Start > > >your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > >_______________________________________ > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > _______________________________________ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME! I AM A PROFESSIONAL IDIOT, I THINK. -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van" ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
