I'd love to have another!  I just have to decide if I want to make the 
investment.  ALl the ones I see F/S around here (Va) have rust in the floors 
and rockers - at 1st glance.  The mechanical parts are usually in working 
condition but I suspect the prices of these cars attract buyers who are 
unable to properly care for them.

Even some that were supposedly "fixed" can be seen with the ends of the F. 
bumper turned downwatd

But they're incredible machines to drive!  Would love to have seen that 3.5L 
!!

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5


>I owned an Arabian gray/parchment tex 1970 European 280SE with AC and PW, 
>no
> s/r, followed by a tobacco brown/cognac leather (burlwood) 1971 300SE L 
> 3.5
> sedan.  I restored them to concours winning condition and loved them both.
> The 3.5 engine was extremely smooth and powerful, and the air suspension 
> was
> quite luxurious.  They both had 4 speed ATs, compared to the 3 speed
> transmission in the 280SE 4.5 sedans.
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think Chuck was speaking more about the nature of this particular type 
>> of
>> car - a full sized sedan with a big V8.  It was very fast and luxurious.
>>  As
>> opposed to a diesel that could be converted to run on french fry 
>> grease --
>>
>>  I was lucky enough to own a '72 28SE 4.5 - the SEL was the same except 
>> for
>> a 4" additionalm space in the rear seat area.  MB engineers are known to
>> have commented that this was probably the best big MB sedan ever made.
>>
>> The engine in mine was in pretty good mechanical condition and even so it
>> only got around 14mpg when tuned perfectly.   But all that was forgotten
>> once the speedo got above 80mph - the road got quieter, the wind noise
>> subsided and best of all the chassis changed the whole character of the
>> car.
>> The suspension became smooth and compliant  - soaking up bumps and tar
>> strips with the feel of a Ferrari/Cadillac combination!
>>
>> They're amazing cars but like all from that time they can rust severely.
>> The front bumper support, lower fenders, headlight buckets, rockers (big
>> time!) and rear quarters -
>>
>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tyler Backman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay Auction 1972 280SEL 4.5
>>
>>
>> > If MPG isn't a consideration on classics, than why has the price of
>> > diesel pontons shot up so much recently?
>> >
>> > Tyler
>> >
>> > On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gary,
>> >>
>> >> An earlier auction did not meet the Reserve.  Reserve has been
>> >> reduced.  As to gas crunch, etc., IMHO, if you want this kind of
>> >> classic, MPG is not a consideration.....  Besides, it ain't a daily
>> >> driver.....
>> >>
>> >> I haven't seen it, but been told it in VG condition....  As
>> >> described....
>> >>
>> >> Take care,
>> >>
>> >> Chuck
>> >
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