That's what I thought, too.  That's the way I was raised, thinking that we
would never stoop to such.  I have sure as Hell been disappointed the last
few years.

Wilton, LtCol, USAF (Ret)

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From: "Rolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity


> I am always amused when people are willing to toss the Geneva Convention
> aside whenever it suits them. Part of being the United States of
> America, the greatest country on this green earth(tm), means that we
> don't lower ourselves to the barbaric nature of (some) other countries.
> We take the high road because thats who we are, the moral high ground.
>
> For the record, Jewish Palestinians (yes they aren't all Arabs) invented
> the suicide bomber when fighting the UK in what is now Israel. Last time
> I checked the Israelis were just as much to blame as the guy from
> Hezballah. You should check up on your middle eastern history. I would
> be pretty pissed if my country was reshaped into a singular theocracy,
> renamed and my neighbors started inviting all of their European cousins
> and kicked me out in the middle of the night by bulldozing my house
> and blowing up my Mercedes :
> http://rafah.virtualactivism.net/newsphotos/05/september%2005/gazanews.jpg
>
> Don't get me wrong they are both to blame. They have both violated UN
> and GC law time and time again. That doesn't mean we need to stoop to
> their levels.
>
> -Rolf
>
> Rich Thomas wrote:
> > The GC applies to enemy combatants who wear the uniform of a country, or
> > are part of some organized national military -- the framers of it
> > apparently did not consider the idea of a bunch of rag-tags blowing
> > themselves and others up with their escapades, sawing off heads on
> > video, stoning their women, and that sort of thing.  Or VC.  But I guess
> > you make a good point, we need to provide those creatures the benefits
> > of a civilized type of warfare, and the US Constitution too.
> >
> > Wouldn't want to spark their outrage or anything, they might get really
> > angry and savage (within the confines of the GC of course).  Like that
> > brave freedom fighter Hezballah guy the Israelis just released who
> > killed 4 people some years ago, among them a 4 yr old girl (she was a
> > Jew) after he beat her father (he was a Jew) to death first on the beach
> > (the brave freedom fighter wanted her to watch), then he took his gun
> > and rocks and beat the 4 yr old to death.  Oh, and her 2 yr old sister
> > (she was a Jew too) suffocated when her mother (a Jew too) stifled her
> > cries as they hid from those lovely guys so they would not be similarly
> > dealt with by the brave freedom fighter and his cohorts.  And his buds
> > are all celebrating today, thousands of them, and planning more such
> > activities to amuse themselves, and that guy says he will do more also.
> > I think they are broadening their efforts beyond the Jews too, so that
> > should give them a bit more opportunity, within the confines of the GC
> > of course.
> >
> > But I'm not worried, not at all, because the Geneva Convention is in
> > effect, and I think the politicians are going to talk with them, have
> > some conversations and negotiations and such.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > TE wrote:
> >
> >> And the Geneva Convention? You know, the same thing that protected John
> >> McBush?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:57 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
> >>
> >> The constitution ONLY applies to American citizens!  You should try
> >> reading it!  Read Jefferson, Adams, and the others who were
> >> there!  The US Constitution does specifically NOT apply to
> >> foreigners, whether within the country, or without, but it especially
> >> does not apply to foreigners outside the country, and it does NOT
> >> apply to foreign terrorists captured on a foreign (or domestic)
battlefield.
> >>
> >> Almost all of what the federal government does is
> >> unconstitutional!  Read the document!
> >>
> >> At 09:28 AM 7/16/2008, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> just look at McCain's opinion of
> >>> giving habeas corpus to Gitmo detainees
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Loren Faeth
> >>
> >>
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