You're absolutely correct - we drove rt33 from Richmond to Elkton a while back - gorgeous country as you said - huge farms, small towns. etc - I made ther mistake of letting my wife drive part way - I had a new Porsche magazine I wanted to read ;-) Bad idea. We drove to the top of the mountain - which wasn't bad, then we started down - switchbacks,one after another. And while I enjoy driving fast - I soon found out I *don't* care to be driven fast! All those years I put my wife through - me driving at times like a madman - and she was quietly calm - claiming she trusted me. Now the shoe was on the other foot and I wasn't nearly as calm. I trust her driving (I taught her when she was 16) and she's a great driver, but being driven down a mountain road filled with switchbacks at 45-55mph is not my cup o tea! We were in our 93 Olds - not exactly a sports car and the turns could be better described by nautical terms than road racing terms. We wallowed and heeled from one turn to the next ;-)

Oh well, we both survived but it taught me a valuable lesson - and showed how much my wife trusts me.

Back to Rt 33 & 20 - one thing that amazes me about most Va roads is the cleanliness - very few McDonalds wrappers and alum cans - I was rudely awakened to the fact not all of USA is like that - flew into Laguardia and drove to Ct - saw so much trash it looked like a landfill. Everything from cars (stripped pretty quickly) to furniture - *big* furniture like sofa's and beds - amazing.

I have long wanted to go back to the Blue Ridge Pkwy following small country roads and do some searching for antiques and sports car lanes. The trip is planned for the 3rd week of Oct but that may change. Hoping to take the 911 - weather should be very pleasant by then.

Will report if we make the trip -- BTW, the Va State Park system has cabins for rent inside the parks - some are more rustic than others and most are spoken far way in advance. No TV, no phone, etc. Might try to get into one -

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I thought that VA rtes. 33 and 20 in and out of Barboursville, Gordonsville,
and Orange were just about the most Mercedes-friendly roads ever:  scenic,
well maintained, 2 lanes so no trucks, and not particularly trafficky.
There is some relief and there are curves, but it is very easy to drive
fast!

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Andrew --
We're in Chester, a small village near I95 about 20 miles S or Richmond.
It's a great place to live - although I liked Frostburg a lot - its big
problem was too little work. Once the construction project was done and the
engineering co I worked for didn;t have enough work to keep me so I was
stuck in Frostburg.

Anyway - Chester is a wonderful place to live - it's grown unbelievably in the last 20 years just like everywhere else. They keep getting closer to
widening some of the great little "sports car" friendly roads - I send a
letter objecting to it but I doubt that has much effect.  I have a theory
about making existing roads wider/nicer - when you do that it attracts more traffic, which neccesitates wider/nicer/more roads - in an endless circle.

have a nice day -

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Surely you jest, but I appreciate a sense of humor so it's OK.

Larry - where do you live now?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Rich Thomas <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you pay less than $2/lb or pick them yourself you are keeping down the
working apple pickers who need to make a living wage.

--R


andrew strasfogel wrote:

There's a car show in WInchester next weekend and I am realy jonesing for
apples that don't cost $2.00/lb.  DO you know of any cost-effective
family-owned PYO orchards?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Thx Andrew,
Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of
fresh  apples is overwhelmingly pleasant!

We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much
history
there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks!  Oh well, always
good
to
save some for next time ;-)

I'll make a note if the places you mentioned and try to include stops
at
them.

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Great instructions - thanks.
I recommend Pomme Resaurant (www.restaurantpomme.com) in Gordonsville


and


a
visit to Barboursville Winery. Old Culpeper was charming as well.
Can't
recommend our B&B, as the proprietor was a bit too loony and the


breakfast


was strictly self-serve and mostly nonexistent!



On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



Hi Andrew,
 Glad you enjoyed your trip to Va.  We live near Petersburg and I'm
planning a trip similar to yours except I hope to take the 911.
Looking
at the 3rd week of Oct. If you could list in general your iteniary
I'd
llike
to take a look and consider some of the same places?

As far as F wheel bearings. They typically have a couple of sounds
-
one is like a roar that gets louder with speed - I can only describe
it
as
a
giant fan spinning making a giant wind noise.  You may also feel a
looseness
when going around corners - almost like the wheel is tilting as you


turn.



 Replacing the WBs is not a difficult job - jack the front end up and

place securely on jack stands - remove the wheels/tires, remove the 2
bolts
holding the caliper on and hang it to chassis with some wire. Then
remove
the small grease cap and you;ll see the bearing nut and the outer
bearing.
Remove the nut and wiggle the hub off the spindle - the outer bearing
will
fall out so catch it to keep it falling in the dirt.   Use a screw


driver



to

remove the inner grease seal (a new one should always be used) & the
inner
WB can then be removed, then, with a long punch placed into the
center


of



the hub, feel for the small ledge of the WB race  (the solid part of
the

WB
that the bearings ride upon)  that portrudes into the center of the
hub
and
slowly tap the punch and drive the ace out working your way around so
it
doesn't become cocked. Keep tapping until the race falls out. When
I
say
"tap", it may require more energetic hitting than that implies. Once
done,
flip the hub over and repeat on the inner race.

 Before reassembly, get a tube of appropriate grease fom the MB
dealer -
it comes in a tube with exactly enough to do 2 wheels - fold the tube
in
half to equally divide it and cut in half - you'll have a container
for
each
wheel.

 Start the new races (I like to use a piece of wood and a hammer)
into
the hub and place grease into the center portion of the hub. Before
putting
the WBs into place, pack grease into all the roller pins (that's the
actual
WBs).  Part of the grease goes into the WBs and part into the cap.
There's
a small copper thingie that attaches to the axle to cut down radio
static -
my WB kit came with new ones.(from Rusty).

 Slip the bearings into place and snug the nut down.  This is where
"feel" comes into play. Tighten it and test the tightness by using


the



tip of a scrrewdriver to move the washer back and forth.  A small
amount

of
force should be needed but you should not have to really put weight
behind
it. Kind of like the force to move a 10# weight.   Too tight will
cause
the
WBs to overheat and fail quickly. Next put the caliper (now's a good
time
to replace the brake pads) wheel /tire and you're pretty much done.


 Now



you can do the other side ;-)


 Now come back and visit Va again - there's a lot to see!
;-)        Good luck -

Take Care,
Larry T
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Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 7:30 PM
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We took our first long trip in the 1983 30TD - from D.C. to
Barboursville
and Gordonsville in the Blue Ridge Piedmont country of Virginia. We


drove


along country lanes and charming little untouched towns, viewing
miles
of
lovely open spaces. We visited James Madison's estate - Montpelier
-
which
was recently restored and now open to the public.  Well worth the
$14
admission charge. What was most interesting to me was the amount of
work
they had to do to DEconsruct the mega-additions that the DuPont
family


had


put on the original house.  Marion DuPont died without heirs, and
willed
the property to the National Trust for Historic Preservation.  Two


decades


and multiple millions of $$ later, it is now another back  to its


original


1850 configuration and a Monticello -like attraction (Jefferson's


estate).


En route, everything worked well with the TD except I was concerned
by
noise
that MAY indicate worn bearings.  Can someone please describe the
audible
(or other) symptoms of worn front wheel bearings? I haven't had a
problem
with worn bearings for 20 years so have forgotten what the symptoms
are.

Andrew
1983 300TD
318 K miles
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