Since I laready tested four of the vacuum elements, I will move on to the
other "easy" tests:  check valve under the hood and the LR door element.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM, andrew strasfogel <[email protected]>wrote:

> I am too anally challenged to do anything that is "painfully slow". Also, I
> could check the lines (I do have a tester) but I have no idea where each of
> them goes after it disappears under the seat!  I suspect the leak may be in
> an interconnecting line.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Rich Thomas <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That would not necessarily be a "major" rupture.  Remember the vac pump is
>> pumping while the car is running, and the reservoir is reservoiring, enough
>> to keep up with various demands (like brakes) so a small leak (like a 10
>> minute leak) would not overwhelm the pump.  Could be a rubber connector is
>> cracked or stretched a bit, a hose is loose, a hose is cracked (that plastic
>> is kinda stiff and gets brittle), pinhole in a diaphragm, whatever.  About
>> the only way to track down a small leak like that would be to test each part
>> of a circuit in sequence, pull a vacuum with your mityvac, then watch the
>> gauge to see what it does over a few minutes.  Painful and slow, but there
>> you go.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>
>>>  I tried three separate driver's door lock elements and there was no
>>> difference.
>>> The hatch lock element was replaced recently so  should be OK, and it is
>>> a
>>> royal PIA to change.
>>>
>>> I tested today and the locks held less than 10 minutes.  The vacuum
>>> reservoir is a possibility, but what sort of major rupture in the line
>>> could
>>> have no effect on how the car runs or how quickly it stops?  I guess it
>>> can't be under the hood, right?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Rich Thomas <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is an egg crate looking thing back underneath that is the
>>>> reservoir,
>>>> it might be goobered or the line messed up.  I think there is a vac
>>>> element
>>>> for the tailgate but I might be wrong on that.
>>>>
>>>> --R
>>>>
>>>> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The vacuum locks on my 1983 300TD had been sorted out and working
>>>>> perfectly
>>>>> - holding for 7+ days at a stretch, until two weeks ago.  Now, although
>>>>> the
>>>>> car operates as always and shuts off quickly, the locking system poops
>>>>> out:
>>>>> in less than an hour, the doors wont all unlock or lock.  I checked the
>>>>> MB service manual but the section on TD wagons shows a different
>>>>> configuration of lines under the RF and LF floor covers than in my
>>>>> vehicle.
>>>>> I have THREE upstream lines per side, not two as shown in the photos in
>>>>> the
>>>>> shop manual.  I have no idea which of hte three goes where.  :((
>>>>>
>>>>> So I did what I usually do and removed three door panels nad checked
>>>>> the
>>>>> vacuum elements there and in the easily accessible fuel door locking
>>>>> element.  The only clue i could come up with was that the fuel door
>>>>> locking
>>>>> element was receiving a very weak locking and unlocking signal.  Yet,
>>>>> the
>>>>> RR
>>>>> door servo was fine.  They were all perfectly fine!  I could take off
>>>>> the
>>>>> LR
>>>>> door panel, but I am prettty sure that it will be OK as well.  All the
>>>>> lines
>>>>> on this car are a total mystery to me.  I need a tutor.  [end of
>>>>> whine/rant].
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>> 1983 300TD, 321K miles
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