I didn't know about that, didn't even know he had a 560.  That's a gas hog 
anyway, he should turn it in for cash for clunkers and move on into a smart car 
...  <ducking>

Richard

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Rusty Cullens <ru...@buymbparts.com> wrote:

> From: Rusty Cullens <ru...@buymbparts.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hursty's list history
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 3:13 PM
> He's not so happy that he totaled his
> 560SL!
> 
> Rusty Cullens
> BuyMBparts, Inc.
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Hattaway" <rhatta...@rocketmail.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hursty's list history
> 
> 
> Len's on the ponton list, happy as a clam, living here on
> the coast in NC
> 
> --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Loren Faeth <lfa...@leadingchange.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Loren Faeth <lfa...@leadingchange.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hursty's list history
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 3:42 AM
> > RIchard, thanks for reminding me of
> > some of the other guys form the old
> > list. MMM was there. I just can't
> > remember everyone. WHo was the Ponton guy? oh!
> > Len Sokolof. anyone know what happened to him?
> >
> > At 10:16 PM 8/16/2009, you wrote:
> > > Nobody is gonna mention Eric Via?
> > >
> > > I miss ole David Frada, as well as many of the
> other
> > characters on the older lists. I was a member of most
> > of them, one time or another, still see the ponton
> list and
> > what's left of the R/E list as well as this group
> today.
> > >
> > > And pooferator Hank is my buddy. He's seen me
> > thru thick and thin, I really enjoy the guy.
> > >
> > > And my buddy Don B. We went to a few nascar
> > races together, he was pretty outspoken about the Viet
> Nam
> > war ( as a veteran of it ) as well as a few other
> things
> > that got him in hot water a few times on R/E. I have
> > not heard from him in a while, but he's still
> floating
> > around up there in the mountains. I am going up there
> > in a few weeks, may look him up.
> > >
> > > Yep, thanks kleb for the list service. It is a
> > lot of fun, and some good people.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Loren Faeth <lfa...@leadingchange.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Loren Faeth <lfa...@leadingchange.com>
> > > > Subject: [MBZ] Hursty's list history WAS:
> bye bye
> > Marshall
> > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:40 AM
> > > > Dickarde definitely was running the
> > > > veterans list before the "Diesel"
> > > > list was started. Hursty, you have given me
> > the
> > > > timeline I was
> > > > missing or unsure about.
> > > >
> > > > So Hursty, I propose changing your statement
> a
> > > > little. This list
> > > > would not have existed without Alex Gabbard,
> and
> > Herr
> > > > Doktor and the
> > > > Diesel list would not have started without
> Dr.
> > Booth.
> > > >
> > > > You might want to add: You would have been
> > > > money ahead without
> > > > meeting dickarde.
> > > >
> > > > Most of the charter members of the Okiebenz
> list
> > were
> > > > members of the
> > > > Diesel list. After dickarde was successful
> > in
> > > > starting the Diesel
> > > > list, it siphoned off members like me and OK
> Don,
> > who was
> > > > then known
> > > > by his real name, from the veterans list.
> > THe 108
> > > > list siphoned off
> > > > more members of the veterans list. each
> > subsequent
> > > > list siphoned off
> > > > members from the veterans list.
> > > >
> > > > After dickarde smoked a few too many and
> melted
> > down, Kaleb
> > > > picked up
> > > > the pieces he found, and put together one
> list,
> > much like
> > > > the
> > > > original veterans list, but without most of
> the
> > > > international
> > > > members. (Yes, we have Bennell, whom I
> > appreciate
> > > > even if he is a
> > > > lawyer and one errant lost Aussie, but the
> > Veterans had a
> > > > whole raft
> > > > of Aussies, including Greene, who was no
> slouch
> > on
> > > > technical stuff,
> > > > and Frada, who was a hoot) Then there were
> > Gabbard
> > > > and others from
> > > > Europe, an occasional Indonesian and a few
> South
> > Africans,
> > > > so it gave
> > > > us a perspective of "Air, Land and Sea, the
> world
> > around"
> > > >
> > > > I still miss the veterans list, but I
> consider
> > the
> > > > character of this
> > > > list to be essentially the same as the
> original
> > > > Mascedes-veterans list.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Kaleb, for running a fun list!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 03:20 PM 8/13/2009, you wrote:
> > > > >i'd guess 98 or 99, but someone like
> little
> > tommy would
> > > > remember such a
> > > > >thing.
> > > > >
> > > > >to sum it up briefly as i understand
> > it: in the
> > > > beginning, there was dave
> > > > >realtime and esa ahola. figure about
> > 95ish.
> > > > a dominant figure on the list
> > > > >was cookies and he really pissed off a
> ton of
> > people
> > > > everyday. ritter and
> > > > >easley then started their own list to
> be
> > "kinder and
> > > > gentler" and cookies
> > > > >free, maybe about 96 or 97. one stuart
> > steele was
> > > > doing the "listmom" thing
> > > > >for ritter/easley and he and ritter
> undertook
> > basically
> > > > what amounted to
> > > > >purges of all dissidents. the mbz.org
> > lists began
> > > > as a reaction to those
> > > > >purges, beginning with "banned" as a
> safe
> > haven for
> > > > mercedesphiles who had
> > > > >been purged from ritter/easley. as
> > ritter/easley
> > > > purported to be kinder and
> > > > >gentler, banned went out of its way to
> be
> > exactly the
> > > > opposite so while it
> > > > >did contain tech information, it was not
> a
> > fit forum
> > > > for many who wished to
> > > > >participate in an alternative tech
> > list. so
> > > > richard sexton and i decided
> > > > >that if dr booth as willing to
> participate in
> > the
> > > > proposed diesel list, we'd
> > > > >run out a bunch of more democratic and
> open
> > lists via
> > > > mbz.org
> > > > >
> > > > >then richard and mbz.org had one final
> > nuclear meltdown
> > > > and lists
> > > > >disappeared, but kaleb took the
> initiative
> > and stepped
> > > > up to keep them alive
> > > > >(originally while richard brought the
> lists
> > back up,
> > > > but now permanently)
> > > > >and that is where we are today.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Peter
> Merle
> > <merle.pe...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > When did the list actually start?
> I
> > have been on
> > > > /off over many years .
> > > > > > Marshall always helped out and
> made
> > sense of many
> > > > things than perflexed one
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2009/8/13 Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > But we have you now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --R
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gary Hurst wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> marshall is historically
> the
> > only reason
> > > > this list exists. the whole
> > > > > > >> mbz.org list system
> (apart
> > from banned)
> > > > was contingent upon marshall's
> > > > > > >> agreed participation.
> > had marhall
> > > > said "no", the plan was to never
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > >> the diesel list.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> just a bit of old school
> > trivia for
> > > > those of you who might still care
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> =
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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