yeah, calling a fella a racist for not liking the quality of chinese product
is pretty nasty, but it's the best some people are capable of doing.

if you happen to own those cheap chinese axle shafts, i have posted the
worldpac instructions for keeping yourself alive.  i'm sorry if this
interferes with your fan club activities.


On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:57 PM, John Reames <jwrea...@comcast.net> wrote:

> This place has become significantly less civil as of recently.  Sure, there
> is no foul language, but that is not he only way of being uncivil.  Another
> method is character assasination, or in this case character assasination by
> proxy.  I find the behavior to be completely unprofessional and unbecoming
> of a businessman.  It rings a sour note, not unlike the time a rep for a
> major nailer manufacturer said that Harbor Freight does not supply parts for
> their nailers, when he had stated not 5 minutes prior that parts for the
> major brand nailer (that was maybe 3 years old) were no longer available, so
> the fix was to buy a new nailer... (gee... Isn't that what you get whenyou
> go to HF and buy one at one third of the major brand's price??)
>
> If you know of problem, such as a recall, on specific products, post the
> original recall.  Don't keep the recall to yourself and then trot out
> information from it to attempt to impugn someone else's character.  Heck,
> you can even say that brand <x> is sold by wholesaler or distributor <W>,
> but there is no purpose in slamming the company you bought it from, unless
> it was made to their specifications.
>
> No sensible seller who wanted to stay in business would knowingly sell crap
> with any sort of warranty; the time spent dealing with returns is lost
> revenue... Then there is the shipping, if only for the replacement product.
>  All of those things add up and result in the seller being forced to change
> supplier or raise prices in order to stay in business.
>
> This ... Is starting to sound like a nationalistic movement. I could easily
> invoke Godwin's law here (given the "keep my German car pure German"
> sentiment), but I will not.  Instead, I will ask some questions.
>
> Why don't we start with "Are you sure that you don't own ANYTHING from
> country <C>?"  Are you really sure?  Have you looked inside each item at all
> the components and traced back the supply chain all the way to the raw
> materials?  How can you be really sure unless you have for each and
> everything you use... Make sure to do it for each batch, as things can
> quietly and suddenly change.
>
> As for country <C>, they have decent steel, but do not have as fine of a
> finish.  (repoint their drill bits for example and they are darn good). They
> also make lots of sub-components.  They might not make your shirts, but what
> about the buttons on them?  They might not make anything the women in your
> life wear, but what about the little rings and adjustment hardware that is
> in the things they wear?
>
> They might not make your electronics, but what about the bare pc boards in
> them, the chips on them, or other components (connectors, resistors,
> capacitors, etc).
>
> Buy only pure American? DoD can't do it. Bavoid country <C>? That's
> difficult in electronics. Some Cisco kit has cinese subcomponents, as does
> Dell, HP, and IBM...
>
> Speaking of IBM, lots of people complain about Lenovo being Chinese, and do
> not care that those machines were
> made in China for years before the sale.  The Thinkpads in the SDS systems
> were at least partially Chinese.
>
> Oh yeah, I almost forgot; I have seen a WorldPac van parked behind the
> parts/service department of a local MB dealer.
>
> It would be nice if there was more thought and consideration given to
> others around here.  If anyone feels the need to cool off, come by my place;
> I can use help shovelling... If you get too hot, you can lose the heavy
> coat.
>
> Anyhow, I hope everyone here has a nice, relaxing weekend.
>
>
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