Thanks Ernest, the chart is very helpful!  The SG does seem to have the
numbers in all the right places.  A couple of people have also mentioned oil
from the Harley dealer is good, but I haven't seen any of their numbers.  I
can put a bit of extra faith in what they're doing for BMW oil though,
knowing the rings are laying flat in the bikes, as they are in my car.  I
would imagine this is something that has been taken into consideration when
looking at ring wear in both engines.

Ed
300E

On 10 June 2010 19:28, ernest breakfield <erne...@backyardengineering.org>wrote:

> Ed,
>
>    this has been a topic in the BMW Motorcycle community for some time, as
> BMW still only recommends SG grade oil for their motorcycles for this
> reason.
>
>    since old grades that meet the spec are becoming more difficult to find
> as oil grades continue to be modified with emissions more of a priority than
> actual lubrication, BMW actually has Spectro make oil for them that still
> meets the spec they want.
>
>    bottom line; BMW SG and Spectro tested out to be the best in this
> regard, though i've read Castrols European formulas were said to be close
> and were available by special order at good FLAPS. (i don't know if this is
> still the case.)
>    here's the results from one test:
> http://www.ibmwr.org/otech/oilreport.html#chartc
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
>
> On 10/Jun/10 14:31, E M wrote:
>
>> Thanks John.  You don't have any numbers for it, do you?  I want enough
>> zinc
>> in it, not only to cover the old requirements, of both the 300, but also
>> an
>> old 911 air cooled engine.  I like the numbers higher too than the
>> recommended levels.  High enough, that at oil change time, when some of
>> the
>> zinc has been used up, the levels are still within the recommended levels.
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>>
>> On 10 June 2010 16:57, John Reames<jwrea...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> M1 5w40 Formula M has higher Zinc than the other M1 oils... It's on par
>>> with the truck/turbodiesel oil
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:05, E M<pokieba...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Interesting in the lists thoughts on this ??
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.bradpennracing.com/Zinc.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>> 300E
>>>> 911SC
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