Those guys are looking for their Darwin Award. I see them too, and if I could slap them around I would. I can assure you that my cycling colleagues and I are way past the age of being invulnerable (or thinking we are). We do not take up the road, though some cyclists seem to think they can do that to piss off drivers (here in SC a cyclist does have a right, per law, to a whole lane of a road, but it is stupid to annoy cars by doing that unless there is some compelling reason).

Yesterday here in Charleston there was some sort of incident down at Folly Beach, had traffic backed up for quite a ways. A truck was making a left turn across the 2 lanes of traffic that was backed up, the cars were letting him through to do that. He looks right to make the turn, proceeds, and got whacked by an EMT or something, on his motorcycle, who was in the wrong lane passing all the stopped traffic to get down to the incident. Motorcyclist said he had his lights and siren on, truck driver said the mcycle did not, but the ambulance way back behind the mcycle did, such that he did not hear or see the mcycle though he saw and heard the ambulance. Who knows, but the truck driver was quite certain, otherwise he said he would not have made the turn.

--R

On 7/7/2010 4:47 PM, WILTON wrote:
Just this morning, I started to make right turn on red (legally, of course, after stopping and sure there was no cross traffic) cyclist whipped past me on the right and went through the red light; he oughta be damned glad I looked back and to the right as I started the turn and stopped in time. He just missed clipping my rt frnt corner and kept right on going, never looking back and thanking me for saving his a$$.

Wilton

----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Streib" <str...@cs.indiana.edu>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes


Around here when the bikes hear a car approaching they bunch up in a pack and take up the whole lane. And just this summer I've seen three near-collisions cause by bicyclists blowing thru stop signs.

There are jerks on both sides when it comes to bikes/cars sharing the road.

The noise issue for electric cars has been long known; I'm surprised Toyota did not anticipate that in their design. They are hardly the first electric car to be designed, produced, sold, or driven.

Allan


On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:14 -0400, "Rich Thomas" <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

A group of us was cycling a couple weeks ago, a Pious on battery passed
us too closely (dumbass driver too, imagine that), and no one heard it.
It was sorta scary and surprising, this thing just materialized right
next to us, very close.  It was kind of an Ohsh** moment for all of us.
Usually whoever is in the back of the pack hears a car and hollers so we
get over to the right as far as we can, with this thing if someone had
moved over a bit to dodge something on the road, we all probably would
have been knocked down and run over.  I wonder if one could sue Toyota
for something like that, since they are being sued for everything else
now -- knowing that being so quiet is dangerous, yet they have done
nothing about it.

I seem to recall that there was some harsh invective hurled at the
driver, along with certain hand gestures, not that it did any good.

--R


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