What technique are you using to apply the stuff. It lays down too rough and bumpy to look entirely correct.
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 20, 2010, at 10:48 AM, LWB250 <lwb...@yahoo.com> wrote: 3M Rocker Panel Spray, part # 05911. You can use it over or under a paint. I used this to recoat repaired rockers on a number of MBs over the years, and it gives you the exact texture that the OEM stuff did. I usually put it down over primer, then shot the requisite MB flat black chassis paint over it. Looked just like it came from the factory. Dan --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> wrote: From: E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:17 AM Yes, that's the part I'm referring to. I couldn't quite make out what it was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, then painted over. A small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite hard, but I suspect that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it in some way. Thanks for the tips. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas down low? It is basically painted over undercoating. The regular off the shelf rubberized undercoating won't do. There are several options available that can duplicate this undercoating although I have been unable to 100% faithfully copy what was there. The original stuff is very rubbery and pliable and no product that I have found has had that quality. Anyway, I have used a variety of products. Wurth made a product which is meant to be applied with a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and stippled over the surface to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed undercoating. 3M has a body shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. 3M also has a rocker panel spray which also takes some finishing over with a brush to smooth out the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another product that can be used but again you have to be creative in its application to get a factory look. All these products then get primed and painted body color. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> wrote: Very impressive!! How is the textured paint applied? Is that a type of paint, or more a technique? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: Here are some pics: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> wrote: I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, or as best as one can. Love to see some pics! Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I really do high end restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It makes no sense I know but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it possible to post attachments here? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> wrote: I would welcome more posts on restoration, and preservation. I do feel there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like to see more on maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration of body and interiors, besides mechanical restorations. I have no personal interest in doing body restoration work, but I'd like to be better informed about the "right" way to do it on certain models, so I can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd like things done. As a starting point, one of the front jacking points on my W124 is showing some rust. I can't really tell is this was from prior collision work not done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow passages in the past that have caused water to settle. I did notice the rubber spout under the side in questions is missing. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski <jaime...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. Booth. But I recall they were about fundamentals of engine design and operation, not about anything specific on a car. I did have some issues with the idea that anything the dokor said was gold, never to be questioned. But he did alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of good information... but he wasn't right about everything, and even a suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems. I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to make dieseltech (and any real serious projects of my own) work. I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 years? I bought my first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to legally drive. I grew up in a W123 and learned to drive in a W126. I'm in my 30s now. I'm an engineer and I work in the automotive industry, as some of you may know. (Which is why I took the attack on the engineers who design these cars personally) I've been working on many Mercedes project cars over the years and most of them I've never mentioned here. I feel that there is no interest in any real restoration or preservation work. The posts I do make are largely ignored. This isn't the fault of the list, its my fault for not finding a more suitable audience. I'm a big believer that original is best. Something Dr. Booth and I had in common. I enjoy these cars because they bring me and my passengers an experience of what things were like when they were new 20-30+ years ago. I take pride in making them operate as originally intended, design flaws and all. As I get older, I feel stronger and stronger about this. The projects I take on are usually nice cars that have been neglected. I bring them back to reliable daily service, and sell them off (rarely for profit, always because I enjoy doing it). I'm working on my third one this year right now and usually own 4-5 cars at a time. I'll be unsubscribing here shortly, but I wanted to set things straight before leaving. Whats written above is how I feel. You might not agree, and you're entitled to that opinion. As I said before, I'm pretty shocked by the reaction my comment has had. Once again, sorry if I offended any of you. Jaime On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net> wrote: Ah, yes. Herr Doktor Booth and young Jaime had their disagreements back in the day, which would have predated young Walt by several years. Herr Doktor was of the 'stock is best' school of thought, which held the theory that Daimler-Benz spent millions every year on engineers who were paid to know something about the cars they designed. 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