Thanks Dan. Ed 300E
On 20 December 2010 10:48, LWB250 <lwb...@yahoo.com> wrote: > 3M Rocker Panel Spray, part # 05911. > > You can use it over or under a paint. I used this to recoat repaired > rockers on a number of MBs over the years, and it gives you the exact > texture that the OEM stuff did. > > I usually put it down over primer, then shot the requisite MB flat black > chassis paint over it. Looked just like it came from the factory. > > Dan > > > --- On Mon, 12/20/10, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] more 140 ignorance and hate > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:17 AM > > Yes, that's the part I'm referring > > to. I couldn't quite make out what it > > was on mine. I suspected some kind of an undercoat, > > then painted over. A > > small chip that came off around the drain hole was quite > > hard, but I suspect > > that is just due to age, or that the damage has effected it > > in some way. > > Thanks for the tips. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 20 December 2010 01:05, Dimitri Seretakis <dsereta...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks. By textured paint I assume you mean the areas > > down low? It is > > > basically painted over undercoating. The regular > > off the shelf rubberized > > > undercoating won't do. There are several options > > available that can > > > duplicate this undercoating although I have been > > unable to 100% faithfully > > > copy what was there. The original stuff is very > > rubbery and pliable and no > > > product that I have found has had that quality. > > Anyway, I have used a > > > variety of products. Wurth made a product which is > > meant to be applied with > > > a special gun. I just applied it with a brush and > > stippled over the surface > > > to duplicate the texture of the factory sprayed > > undercoating. 3M has a body > > > shutz which is probably similar to the Wurth product. > > 3M also has a rocker > > > panel spray which also takes some finishing over with > > a brush to smooth out > > > the overly rough texture. Seam sealer is another > > product that can be used > > > but again you have to be creative in its application > > to get a factory look. > > > All > > > these products then get primed and painted body > > color. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:21 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Very impressive!! How is the textured paint > > applied? Is that a type of > > > paint, or more a technique? > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > > > > On 19 December 2010 18:24, Dimitri Seretakis <dsereta...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Here are some pics: > > > > > > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=284706 > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Dec 19, 2010, at 5:47 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think any job worth doing, is worth doing properly, > > or as best as one > > > can. Love to see some pics! > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > > > > On 19 December 2010 17:19, Dimitri Seretakis <dsereta...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I'd love to post pics of my rust repair projects. I > > really do high end > > > restoration type metal repairs on my low end cars:) It > > makes no sense I > > > know > > > but I just can't help myself. I don't rember but is it > > possible to post > > > attachments here? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Dec 19, 2010, at 3:30 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I would welcome more posts on restoration, and > > preservation. I do feel > > > there are a number of posts on repairs, but I'd like > > to see more on > > > maintance, and as I said, preservation and restoration > > of body and > > > interiors, besides mechanical restorations. > > > > > > I have no personal interest in doing body restoration > > work, but I'd like to > > > be better informed about the "right" way to do it on > > certain models, so I > > > can better instruct those I'm paying as to how I'd > > like things done. > > > > > > As a starting point, one of the front jacking points > > on my W124 is showing > > > some rust. I can't really tell is this was from > > prior collision work not > > > done up to Mercedes standards, or blocked water flow > > passages in the past > > > that have caused water to settle. I did notice > > the rubber spout under the > > > side in questions is missing. > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > > > > On 19 December 2010 15:08, Jaime Kopchinski <jaime...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I did have some disagreements with Dr. > > Booth. But I recall they > > > were about fundamentals of engine design and > > operation, not about > > > anything specific on a car. I did have some > > issues with the idea that > > > anything the dokor said was gold, never to be > > questioned. But he did > > > alot of good things for all of us, and spread alot of > > good > > > information... but he wasn't right about everything, > > and even a > > > suggestion that he might be wrong caused problems. > > > > > > I was ahead of my time, and short on resources, to > > make dieseltech > > > (and any real serious projects of my own) work. > > > > > > I've been on these lists for a long time... 10-12 > > years? I bought my > > > first mercedes in 1998, a year after being able to > > legally drive. I > > > grew up in a W123 and learned to drive in a > > W126. I'm in my 30s now. > > > I'm an engineer and I work in the automotive industry, > > as some of you > > > may know. (Which is why I took the attack on the > > engineers who design > > > these cars personally) > > > > > > I've been working on many Mercedes project cars over > > the years and > > > most of them I've never mentioned here. I feel > > that there is no > > > interest in any real restoration or preservation > > work. The posts I do > > > make are largely ignored. This isn't the fault > > of the list, its my > > > fault for not finding a more suitable audience. > > > > > > I'm a big believer that original is best. > > Something Dr. Booth and I > > > had in common. I enjoy these cars because they > > bring me and my > > > passengers an experience of what things were like when > > they were new > > > 20-30+ years ago. I take pride in making them > > operate as originally > > > intended, design flaws and all. As I get older, > > I feel stronger and > > > stronger about this. The projects I take on are > > usually nice cars > > > that have been neglected. I bring them back to > > reliable daily > > > service, and sell them off (rarely for profit, always > > because I enjoy > > > doing it). I'm working on my third one this year > > right now and > > > usually own 4-5 cars at a time. > > > > > > I'll be unsubscribing here shortly, but I wanted to > > set things > > > straight before leaving. Whats written above is > > how I feel. You > > > might not agree, and you're entitled to that opinion. > > > > > > As I said before, I'm pretty shocked by the reaction > > my comment has > > > had. Once again, sorry if I offended any of > > you. > > > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net> > > wrote: > > > Ah, yes. Herr Doktor Booth and young Jaime had their > > disagreements back > > > in > > > the day, which would have predated young Walt by > > several years. Herr > > > Doktor > > > was of the 'stock is best' school of thought, which > > held the theory that > > > Daimler-Benz spent millions every year on engineers > > who were paid to know > > > something about the cars they designed. Those > > engineers clearly knew more > > > than you or I, so why would we ever dream of trying to > > improve on their > > > designs? > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
