I got a kick out of seeing one of the old bag phones when I was watching "The 
Big Lebowski" the other night....

The Dude abides.

Dan


--- On Thu, 1/13/11, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] fines for use of cell phone without hands free device??
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 6:33 PM
> Car phones as opposed to the
> alternative, Bag phones.
> 
> 
> >I just remembered, my old 300E had a mercedes (dealer
> installed?) built in
> >phone when I got it, along with a hands free mic on the
> A pillar.  The hard
> >wiring for the antenna, and wire that's hidden behind
> the A pillar remain,
> >but I yanked out the phone as soon as I got it.  I
> did the same with my old
> >911.  Back then, a car phone was a pretty rare
> thing.  Yeah, they were
> >called "car phones" at that time too, not mobiles, or
> cell phones.  Go
> >figure, eh.
> >
> >Ed
> >300E
> >
> >On 13 January 2011 18:03, R A Bennell <b...@mts.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>  Well, my car is in the garage for the
> duration of the cold weather so not
> >>  much to do on it for a bit. I did buy a new
> set of H4 headlights for it and
> >>  will install them come spring. May even go
> the route of relays and higher
> >>  wattage bulbs if the H4's that I have are
> not a significant improvement.
> >>
> >>  I have other issues too like seats that are
> disintegrating but again, that
> >>  may have to wait for some warmer weather.
> >>
> >>  I did look up the local statute and
> regulations to see if it will likely
> >>  pose a problem to use my cell phone camera.
> I "suspect" that I may get away
> >>  with it so long as I have my Bluetooth
> doodad on the visor so I can show an
> >>  officer that I do have the ability to use it
> hands free. The regs say one
> >>  cannot even look at or hold the phone but I
> am guessing that I can just tell
> >>  them I was checking the battery level or
> checking to see if it was actually
> >>  on, and will get away with it.
> >>
> >>  Not sure what they might say about the
> camera issue. The regs do not say
> >>  anything about the use of cameras but do say
> you cannot use a device that
> >>  includes a cell phone.
> >>
> >>  Randy
> >>
> >>  On 13/01/2011 4:45 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Having lived for 65 years in what may be
> the most corrupt state in the
> >>>  U.S.; (Since 2000 Florida had the most,
> [729], federal corruption
> >>>  convictions of any state with second
> place New York far behind with only
> >>>  633); we Floridians don't necessarily
> obey onerous laws to the letter.  We
> >>>  find ways to avoid them.
> >>>  For example, a friend who is a sales rep
> frequently gets calls from
> >>>  customers while he's driving.
> >>>  When he was driving through counties
> that had the "no cell phone" law, he
> >>>  would put his cell phone between two
> pieces of bread and hold it up to his
> >>>  ear.  The single time a cop stopped
> him, he dropped the bread 
> >>>slices and the
> >>>  cell phone on the floor and picked up a
> real sandwich.
> >>>  The conversation went something like
> this:
> >>>  "You were talking on a cell phone and
> that is illegal while you are
> >>>  driving."
> >>>  "I was eating a sandwich."
> >>>  "Why did you have it up to your ear?"
> >>>  "So I could see where I was going."
> >>>  "Where is the sandwich?"
> >>>  He picked up a real sandwich which had a
> bite out of it.
> >>>  "Where is your cellphone?"
> >>>  He pretended to look for it and then
> retrieved it from the floor.
> >>>  The cop went back to his car and
> apparently called headquarters.
> >>>  "You can go.", said the cop.
> >>>  That was the only time he was stopped,
> and he won't have that
> >>>  problem again since he bought a new car
> which has a
> >>>  built-in microphone and speaker.
> >>>
> >>>  Perhaps you can cut a hole in a slice of
> bread for the lens,
> >>>  Randy, and use your cellphone camera the
> same way.
> >>>  Of course, if you were a lawyer in
> Florida you would have
> >>>  nothing to worry about since cops never
> ticket lawyers unless
> >>>  they're blind drunk or politicians in a
> different party than the
> >>>  sheriffs or chiefs.
> >>>
> >>>  I saw in the "sheriffs list" in the
> local paper where a woman had
> >>>  been arrested for carrying a concealed
> weapon because she had
> >>>  one of those little "pepper spray"
> cannisters in her purse.
> >>>  Interesting.
> >>>  Gerry
> >>>  Note:  Actually I prefer to lurk
> and simply enjoy the OT and
> >>>  benefit from the descriptions of
> Mercedes fixes, but for some
> >>>  strange reason our old Mercedes are
> running well and no one
> >  >> has any OT to talk about.  Maybe
> it's a good omen; or bad?
> >>>
> >>> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> >>>  From: "R A Bennell" <b...@mts.net>
> >>>
> >>>>  So, to start with, I know, I am a
> lawyer so why am I asking you folks??
> >>>>  I don't know and am wondered if any
> of you might know is the basic
> >>>>  answer.
> >>>>  Anyone actually look at the laws,
> regulations, whatever, that impose the
> >>>>  fines for use of cell phones in your
> jurisdiction?
> >>>>
> >>>>  The reason I ask is that my cell
> phone has a camera in it and I sometimes
> >>>>  use it to take photos while driving
> if I see something interesting. It
> >>>>  occurred to me recently, that this
> is probably no longer acceptable. If an
> >>>>  officer sees me with the phone in
> hand, I am going to get the ticket and I
> >>>>  doubt he has to prove I was actually
> phoning someone. The phone company
> >>>>  should be able to provide evidence
> that I was not on a call at 
> >>>>that time but
> >>>>  that might not be sufficient to get
> one off - and one would have to waste
> >>>>  the time going to fight the ticket
> which would cost more than the ticket.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Then the question arises - 
> is  using a digital camera instead  any
> >>>>  better?  I am guessing that the
> law says one is not to use electronic
> >>>>  devices rather than "cell phones".
> >>>>
> >>>>  Randy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
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