You're right - about humans causing a lot of tree growth in the US -
read
about it recently - there's a larger percentage of acres covered by
tree
growth than when the settlers arrived. Some say the diversity of tree
species has declined but I'm not too sure about that. Also , there's
more
white tail deer than in the days of the early settlers - the predators
(bear/cougar/etc) were killed off allowing the deer to grow unchecked.
It's the Law of Unintended Circumstances. ;-)
Sincerely,
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From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming
short, long, whatever, point is exactly what you say - you have trees
now
(as do we in MO) but did not BEFORE the arrival of white men becuase
we
killed the buffalo and put out prairie fires that killed trees. Don't
have
any personal opinion on that except to point out that it's an example
of
humans CAUSING large scale tree growth.
Chris
"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Short prarie grass?
In OK?
We have trees in there here parts.
Christopher McCann wrote:
"Another side note -- the short grass prarie (is in Oklahoma/Nebraska)
used to extend all the way into central Ohio...."
A good example of RE-forestation (or NEW-forestation). No buffalo, and
with lightining fires
put out by man, trees grew!
Chris
Peter Frederick
wrote:Since we do not have anything resembling good data from the
climate
prior to the last ice ages it would be pure speculation to say we are
on
the edge of a new ice age, but there is more evidence than that.
I suspect that during the first millenium after Christ, there was in
fact
an open Arctic ocean. Remember, Greenland was famable in those days
(instead of having glaciers down to the water in all those souther
valleys) and was heavily colonized by the Danes. There was much more
rainfall in the Mediteranean, especially on the southern side, and
the
Sahara desert was much smaller. Arabia also had much more rainfall.
During Roman times, the middle east was completely deforested, and
aquired the climate it has today (semidesert to desert). How much of
that
was human activity and how much was changing climate is impossible to
tell, but I would bet deforestation had something to do with it.
Ditto
for global warming -- no one seems to want to discuss deforestation,
but
it has huge effects on rainfall and lower level storm activity.
Anyway, there was a distinct "little ice age" in Europe in the
1500-1800
period -- Boston harbor froze shut, the Thames froze solid some years
running in the winter (remember, southern England is semi-tropical
today -- Plymouth within half a mile of the coast is frost-free, palm
trees and all).
I have wondered what would happen if the Arctic and Antarctic oceans
warmed up. Typically, the very cold water from the ice sheets drops
below
the warmer salt ocean water and forms the deep "return" stream for
the
Gulf Stream in the Atlantic. In recent years, the meltwater is warm
enough that it is less dense than the saline ocean water, and there
is
more of it, and it does not sink, rather remaining on the surface.
This
"cold slug" of mineral depeleted water has had a large impact on the
cod
fishery, compounding the serious overfishing that was going on. The
combination resulted in the collapse of the cod fishery.
I have a feeling that loss of icecap may very well result in a
re-arrangment of the ocean currents in the Altantic (and probably
Pacific
as well) -- I wonder what Europe will look like if the Gulf Stream
goes
across the Atlantic and down Africa instead of up the US coast and
over
to England?
As I tried to point out to my Ecology classes, climate is a
metastable
system. It will always be be a "closed system". but the actuall flows
of
water and wind can take any number of self-reenforcing patterns. Land
climates will be quite different if the water patterns are
different.....
Another side note -- the short grass prarie (is in Oklahoma/Nebraska)
used
to extend all the way into central Ohio....
Peter
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