I had no idea. Thanks for the detailed explanation. I just figured when the fuel crisis ended, so did interest in diesels. Will keep this e-mail for future reference and forward to some friends. Thanks! Chris
Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WHY GM? In a rush to capture part of the growing diesel market after the second "gas shortage" (76 i think) GM dieselized its 350 gasser. it was available in Olds, chevy, and caddy big cars and pickups. They put an itty bitty fuel filter on it, hidden on the back of the intake manifold, and piped the OUT side of the filter on the bottom, where any water would collect. Any water in the fuel went to the injectors and ruined them, costing big bucks. The engines were prone to failure, and the dealers didn't want to service diesels, nor did their mechanics. Most problems were plugged fuel filters, or ruined nozzles. The engine was reasonably reliable, if you put a Racor or Master filter on them that really filtered the fuel and separated the water. (remember, this was another period when bad fuel was prevalent.) If pulled hard, the bottom end would go out. then, in the fall of 1984, GM made a very loud announcement that the diesel engine had no future in the US, and GM was stopping production of diesel engines. There was a lot more to the announcement, generally saying that if you bought or owned a diesel car that you were feeble minded. Not content with that mayhem, GM went to the EPA, and collaborated to toughen the emissions standards so that NO diesel engine in production or planning could meet the regulation. Until that day, GM had been ardently fighting the EPA and the greenie weenies on Diesel emission regs. GM diesel cars sat on lots or were junked. You could buy a nice GM diesel for $500, 1, 2, or 3 years old. The proclamation was so widely publicized that it killed the sales of Diesel cars for every manufacturer, even those committed, like MB and VW. Mercedes had already prepared the trap oxidizer for the CA market, and could meet the regs for 85-87. But the damage was done. There is a reason why 81-85 123 cars are so plentiful. They were very popular, and of course, very durable. But, very few diesels sold after the GM proclamation. There were a few SDLs sold in 86 and 87. There were a handful of TDs sold in 87, mostly for dealer roadside assistance vehicles. A few 124 300Ds sold. Ford sold most of its escort diesels to fleets such as GTE to use up the stock of engines. VW could not sell enough diesels to bother meeting the regs for a few years. THAT is why GM. If it weren't for GM, diesel cars would be selling at about 20% from 1985 until now. In 75 to 1980, I usually had the only Diesel at our MBCA section events. Sometimes there was one other car, a 220D or a 240D. Then at one meeting, I could not believe my eyes, Every car there was a diesel! 240Ds, 300Ds, CDs Over the winter everyone had traded for a new Diesel 123! Same people, they now had diesels. I think that was in the spring of 82. Loren At 08:35 AM 11/28/2005, you wrote: >Why GM? > > Chris _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 29 02:51:32 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.202]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Egvad-0008J7-SJ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:51:32 +0000 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so2760777wxc for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:51:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WjDzg97qR5UjK/K+2VTXvz14u774sLTalV59BDe04o9Ma921VKyZpQdDjtt/8TWYktK0NcaRsygQeL35G+KKLP4bKhySXzu7J1glJyfGAQ0cdgON3s2vkN2pMsEZjD/YS5MAMOUg3yNtsU65nfTeLk3RyioPCY/j3fKb0++rr9I= Received: by 10.70.60.12 with SMTP id i12mr1452686wxa; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.124.6 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:51:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:51:29 -0600 From: OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:51:32 -0000 Most anything you want is here -- http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ On 11/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a lot of data available to sift thru -- still looking for > state-by-state stats. As soon as I locate some I'll post a summary and a > link - > > I've found info for LA, Chi and NYC but would prefer state comparisons. > They're there - I just have to locate them. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
