On the subject of having an onboard camera that is always on.  I have a
business friend that runs a fleet of heavy trucks, each one is equipped
with the GPS version and a loop recorder that refreshed after 45 min. So
far, it has saved him numerous thousands in insurance claims after drivers
did illegal and stupid things that caused wrecks involving his fleet trucks
[they always run in city traffic].  Every time he shows up in court with
his film and his lawyer they win because the "public endangerment stupid
event" is live on film.

Also, his driver safety record has gone way up since they all know whatever
they do is being recorded,, ie. speed, location, etc... Guess when the GPS
records you were parked at the strip club for 3 hrs instead of making
deliveries it cuts into your employment... lol

All in all,, good investment.

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Tim C <bb...@crone.us> wrote:

> > How will a dash cam help?  Won't it likely be pointing the wrong
> > way?  If the Hunter said, "Cop said I was accelerating to fast",
> > how is a camera on the dash going to help?
>
> Remember it also has GPS, so you have speed information also.  You would
> also see the acceleration qualitatively, and if you have the rear camera
> you could monitor your smoke.
>
> There are voice recording and GPS tracking applications available for
> Android if you don't need the video.
>
> Honestly I would think they are more useful in abuse-of-power situations
> than normal traffic stops, where you probably are speeding or changing
> lanes too quickly or rolling though a stop sign.  It just takes the dispute
> out if you have a record.
>
> On a related note, I have (somewhere in the garage) a "carchip", which uses
> ODB2 or CAN to monitor the speed the computer thinks the car is going (and
> other sensors).  If it senses a rapid speed change (i.e. crash) it will
> take note of the  acceleration and time, as well as the data from a few
> minutes before.
>
> I pretend for the sake of the discussion that most judges will consider
> exculpatory evidence in traffic court, but I don't actually believe that is
> true in most places.  If you wind up in civil court it would probably be
> helpful there.
>
> > What am I missing?
>
> I think that Kaleb is going to lose this unless he gets lucky or pays a
> lawyer.  Camera is for next time, to see how much trouble kid should be in
> at home.
>
> Kaleb, hire a lawyer.  Worth the money, have kid pay you back.  It will
> more than save him the cost in insurance.  Unless... can Regina go with him
> to court in her uniform? :)
>
> -Tim
> Does not speed in Florida, ever
>
> > --   Philip
> >
> >
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