I would also point out that none of the dams affected produced significant amounts of power, that is, they were all pretty small as far as output.
I did some work at both the Glines and Condit dams back in the early 90s, both of which are pretty small (100-200 feet) and only produce about 15 MW each. A lot of these dams were tossed up by the paper companies that were raping the land in the area around the turn of the last century, in order to produce power to run their logging operations. They were terribly inefficient and required significant maintenance to stay on line. Unlike later dams that were built and designed to accommodate the environment around them, these had no fish ladders, or their design made retrofitting difficult. Add to this that many of them were on tribal lands and totally hosed up the place for the aboriginal populations, who had a subsistence living based on the wildlife in the area. I'm no tree hugger, and I certainly recognize the value of hydroelectric power over natural gas or coal, but I think they are doing the right thing in these cases by returning the rivers to their original state. Dan who doesn't drive a Subaru Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:30 PM, clay monroe <redgh...@comcast.net> wrote: > SWMBA was involved in that mess. > > The reason the dams are gone is that the state decided, along with federal > idiots to impose crippling requirements for relicensing of the dam. Utility > could have swallowed hard and tossed several billion in cash at the issue to > move fish and upgrade all sorts of other niggling issues. Turned out cheaper > to just blow them up and be done. Take the loss on the books and look for > other generation sources. > > The decline in hydro feeds into the other renewable energy fields. With less > hydro (which is not considered renewable here) BPA will have to allow wind > and solar onto the grid instead of forcing them to shut down due to excess > hydro generation because there is too much water behind the dam. > > Big run on federal cash that obama was tossing about over the past three > years. Lots of new wind farms on the books and some geothermal in the > pipeline. Oddly, there is no geothermal regulations on the books in > Washington, so this is going to be a clusterF**k to get up. > > > > clay > > 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > >> Randy wrote: >>> Ah but you missed the reference to Hydro Electric Power and Dams! >> >> A recent story told about how Washington state is dismantling several >> hydroelectric dam installations. >> Of course, these are in the migration paths for salmon spawns, so >> dismantling them is a plus for that industry. >> mao >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
