Point well made and fully taken. Disgust is fast becoming the most common sentiment towards our elected persons, on both sides of the isle.
"Congress: The only two houses in America that need foreclosed." And that is just a starting point. Grant... AZ... On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: > G Mann <g2ma...@gmail.com> writes: > > > As a pair they represent to me all in government I do NOT agree with and > > almost everything in personal ethics and social boundaries. > > Agreed, but I don't think that the ethical high ground can be found > anywhere in the political spectrum. Too many examples of ethical > failure on both the right and the left. Power corrupts, and politians > are human and > > > > > With respect for your sovereign citizen right to hold your own opinion > and > > express it, of course. > > > > Grant... > > AZ... > > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:06 AM, andrew strasfogel > > <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> Not always such a disadvantage. I know of a guy raised by a single > >> mom with an absentee dad who grew up to become President! Then there > >> was the kid with the alcoholic and abusive dad who also ended up at > >> 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. You never know... > >> > >> On 12/23/11, Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > >> > It takes (mostly) parents instilling an interest in learning for a > child > >> > to become educated. This begins when the child is an infant, by > reading > >> > and talking to the child so s/he can learn language and all that > >> > implies. Then books, lots of books. By the time children reach the > >> > "education" system it is too late to do much in the way of "educating" > >> > them, you might be able to "teach" them something but that is not > >> > preparing them to learn on their own and to become truly "educated." > >> > There is a vast difference between teaching and educating, bu the > >> > schools can do neither well if the parents have not prepared the > >> > children for the experience. > >> > > >> > Unfortunately this has a disparate effect on certain segments of > society > >> > wherein having a child or 3 or 5 with no father in the household, and > a > >> > complete lack of any sort of effective parenting, creates yet another > >> > generation of ineducable children, who will become just like their > >> > "parents." It is unfortunate that this is now most prevalent in the > >> > black population (70% children born to single parent, no father in the > >> > picture) but applies equally to a lower socioeconomic white > demographic > >> > though not as prevalent. The culture of single parents, low > >> > expectations, no job opportunities, poor education/teaching, attitude > >> > toward school, etc. has been aided and abetted by our tax money for at > >> > least 2 generations now, and the result is apparent in crime, etc. > and a > >> > continuing drain on society. > >> > > >> > No amount of money is going to fix a cultural problem. > >> > > >> > --R > >> > > >> > On 12/23/11 11:32 AM, G Mann wrote: > >> >> he concern issue is "how do we best educate our children" as a > society. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
