"We" don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from US wells.
Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try to wrap it in the flag -- On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: > OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> writes: > > > Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to > Venzuela? > > The oil industry does not know national borders - > > Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held > hostage to oil > > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T <l02tur...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> "with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy > >> independent in a few years.".. > >> > >> LarryT > >> 91 300D > >> > >> > >> On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Craig <diese...@pisquared.net> writes: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past > >>>>>> couple of years. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of > >>>>> dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have > been > >>>>> obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of > things > >>>>> has to go up. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about > >>>> doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago). > >>>> Allan > >>>> 1983 300D > >>>> 1979 300SD > >>>> > >>>> Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but > around > >>> here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the > mailorder > >>> tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them. > >>> I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and > >>> other sources. Have you or others had any experience with them? I > seem to > >>> remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid > for > >>> after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub > >>> clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil. Did that in > years > >>> gone by. > >>> Gerry > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________**_________ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/< > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com< > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > >>> > >>> ______________________________**_________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/< > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com< > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > >> > > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
