That surprises me as Scion = Toyota and anybody thats ever priced a used Camry has seen Toyota's magic at work. I had a Kia Optima as a rental once. It was a decent car, gas mileage was not its high point (about 24mpg with a 4cyl) but better than a Chevy Cobalt (also 4cyl) I had (about 20mpg, yuck!) and I drove the stink out of it. Decent power, I had it in San Francisco and it had plenty to pull the hills there. Suzuki also makes a decent product but is underrated in my opinion. The Vitara is surprisingly a good woods truck. My Dad had a Chevy Tracker which was just a rebadged Vitara (you could even buy parts from the Suzuki dealer and save money) and it was excellent in the woods. In fact the Tracker was MUCH better in the woods than his Jeep Liberty which is "Trail Rated". I dunno what trail they rated it on but we dragged the Liberty about everywhere we went last November. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:37:26 -0600 From: Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
It's interesting, awhile back I got a thing from one of my banks trying to get me to buy a new car so they could be kind enough to collect interest from me, and I noticed they had a few stipulations on some car makes that they wouldn't loan money on, Scion was on the list, along with suzuki, KIA, and that other korean one that I don't think was around long after I got the ad, and a number of other makes with questionable dealer support. I wish I had kept the ad, it was rather telling of which car companies just weren't doing it. --------------Robert --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 15 15:49:58 2005 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1EmvMk-0005ts-I2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:49:58 +0000 Received: from tomserver (pcp04555837pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net [68.62.187.239]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id jBFFnsSq1189243 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:49:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:49:59 -0600 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Importance: Normal X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes mailing list <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:49:58 -0000 Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to "get there" you need to fill & bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: > >My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 >From: Tom Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials >To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; > x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 > >Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on >so >you know it's not "air" in there any more. Actually, I think some >major >stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. >Best regards, >Tom Reynolds >Sand Springs, OK > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________ >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 _______________________________________ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net