What Greg said. Grant, I was merely talkin' 'bout statistics - nothing
else. BTW, I'm not depending on my neighbors to protect me, though maybe I
should, if I could - after all, turnabout is fair play, isn't it? ;<)
Wilton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Fiorentino" <gf...@dslnorthwest.net>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership
I don't read Wilton's post that way. I expect he was simply saying that
the
number of guns divided by the number of people doesn't give an accurate
metric of the percentage of people with guns, since some (okay, probably
many) gun owners own more than one.
Also, I and many other gun owners would likely try to come to the defense
of
an unarmed fellow citizen in time of need if circumstances allowed.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Gun Ownership
WILTON wrote:
How many people in those purple areas have humpteen guns each to "make
up"
for those of us who have none?
Emmm.. faulty thinking... sorry to break the news to you.. but I don't own
a
gun to "protect you".. I own a gun, if I own one, to "Protect Me and those
of my Family".
You and those like you who are unable to protect yourself die first.. that
is how nature works. You have a front door on your house which has the
duty
to protect you and your family. You have the option to leave that door
open
and unlocked, or closed and locked.. you are free to choose. As soon as
that door no longer protects you, you have other options to choose from,
presuming you have not given up those options by pre-choice.
On the other hand, the door on my house serves yet a different purpose. It
is there to protect the individuals who would make the unwise choice to
breach that barrier without permission. At that moment, they have options
which they may choose from, presuming they have not given up those options
by pre-choice.
This is not a zero sum game. If I have two guns, one is not to "make up"
for you not having made the choice to exercise the Right to Self Defense.
In the emotion ridden present day climate, there are many who want to make
this a fight about guns. It is not. The real core issue is who takes
responsibility for your personal self defense. The founding fathers of the
country understood this and made that responsibility reside with the
citizen
by ensuring the Right to keep and bare arms "Shall not be infringed"[in
pertinent part here].
They did not say "call 911 and wait" or "vomit on your attacker" or "try
peeing on them to scare them away", the language chosen was very specific
and legally powerful language [look up "shall" in Blacks law dictionary,
Not,and "Infringe" also].
Your expectation is that I will fully support your choice to not defend
yourself by being armed, which I do. My expectation is that you will fully
support my choice to defend myself and provide my own means to do so,
which
I am not getting the feeling of full support.
"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away" has a lot more
meaning to me since the courts have repeatedly ruled that the police have
NO
duty to protect citizens.
Just a few thoughts to stimulate your thinking process perhaps.
Respectfully,
Grant...
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net> wrote:
WILTON wrote:
How many people in those purple areas have humpteen guns each to
"make up" for those of us who have none?
If I'd have to think about it for a couple of minutes to tell you the
exact number of firearms, and would need to do a physical inventory if
you wanted to know how many airguns and bows I have, am I one of those
people?
Mitch.
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