Well, I've been having to add a bit of water/coolant for several weeks; haven't been driving it much for few months; hundred mile run 'bout every 3 or 4 weeks plus short trips/errands.

Wilton

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Interesting. So do head gaskets fail suddenly rather than gradually in the rodbender scenarios? Could the fact that you caught it early have saved the engine from bending a rod? If I recall correctly the problem happens at no.1 cylinder. Will you do a compression test to confirm location at the cylinder?

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:03 PM, "WILTON" <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

No, 'doesn't look foamy or cafe au lait - probably not in there with engine running long enough; merely looks like greatly increased volume/quantity of black oil - suddenly decreased quantity in cooling system; at same time, suddenly increased quantity in oil pan - car likely not driven long enough like this to foam it up. 'Drove it, maybe, 6 or 8 blocks, including idling few minutes at ATM, but didn't hafta wait in line. When I got home, coolant overflow tank was empty; no leaks evident; car sat overnight; woke up during night and decided that I should check oil level again; next morning, checked oil and found MUCH GREATER quantity in oil pan. Last time I drove it few days before, oil level was normal.

Wilton

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Does your oil have a cafe au lait appearance? If coolant is getting in there shouldn't it have that look?

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On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:40 PM, "WILTON" <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

You probably missed the part where I said, "Coolant overflow tank suddenly empty; oil level suddenly way up past midway the UPPER red tab on the dipstick - way above usual level half way between the two red tabs." 'Don't think I need a finer analysis than simple deduction to know that the extra stuff in the crankcase is the water missing from the cooling system." ;<)

Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:06 PM
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Cold be either - one "kinda of inexpensive" while the other probably very expensive as only a replacement head will do.

<<But does water in the oil mean head gasket or cracked head? >>

If the car has not been driven much in a while it could be condensation as a outside chance. Unlikely but when a engine is not allowed to warm enough to force evaporate condensation it will have a grey gunk around the oil filler at times. But if a Oil Analysis was done and water was found over more than one Analysis with lots of driving between testing it is likely a head or gasket....

Since you are adding water but cannot find a leak it's possible the water is leaking onto a hot part of the engine and steaming off before you find it... Happened to me on a Chev years ago. Water was leaking from a gasket onto the manifold and I had a very hard time finding it. Of course of a Analysis test is done it will tell if there is Glycol present...

;-)

LarryT
'91 300D


LarryT
On 7/16/2013 9:36 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
But does water in the oil mean head gasket or cracked head?

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