Hi all.I'm new to the list, brought on board by my friend, Clay.I recently
bought a '73 450sl. Someone tried to break into the trunk before I bought it.
I had a new trunk lock-cylinder keyed to match my ignition, but it came from a
newer sedan, and the bracket that houses the cylinder is different. (Too
"stout" -the latch won't clear) If anyone has the correct bracket for this
model/year or knows where to get one, I'd be very grateful. Thanks,-Andy
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:12:15 -0600
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:24:32 -0500 Rick Knoble <rickkno...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Craig" <diese...@pisquared.net> wrote:
>
> > It would have helped to have links to the pictures, or reasonable size
> > pictures (say 1024x768) instead of the 2592x1936 (which is larger
> > than my monitor at 1920x1200....
>
> I agree. That is the problem with phones that have 12 terapixel (I am
> being facetious) cameras. The inferior optics plus the over sized image
> sensor allow crappy pictures to be huge.
My Nikon Coolpix 775 has different sizes of pictures one can choose
between. Do phones have the same capability?
Craig
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:08:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 photos
Which is the simplest to join and use?
Thanks,
Gerry
> There is a reason for Flickr, Picasa, Photobucket, DropBox, etc. They are
> easy to link to, and you can post as many digital images as you like.
> Rick
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From: okd...@gmail.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 18:54:29 -0500
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
I wonder how you use a reflector with one of the new flat box WiFi MIMO
routers with no external antennas?
I'm thinking trial and error now --- a quarter wave length is about 1.2" --
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The easiest is a reflector for the antenna.
>
> http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/Ez-10/
>
> There are other, more effective ways - but they all cost a _lot_ more.
>
> -- Philip
>
--
OK Don
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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From: onecreat...@gmail.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:58:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Bringing back the View Master
Totally, at http://reelagram.com we're catering specifically to the Instagram
community--purely 2D. Our partner, Image3D, who makes all of this possible can
work with you to create true stereo reels http://image3d.com
Darren
On Aug 30, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Fmiser <fmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Darren wrote:
>>
>> Hey all, just wanted to share a little diddy we just launched. No
>> doubt you're familiar with View Masters, the old school slide
>> reel viewers--you probably had some Disney ones years ago...
>> maybe still do.
>>
>> I've partnered up with a guy that used to shoot in stereovision,
>> did all that fancy stuff for Spielberg back in the day... and
>> well in the spirit of adorning the analog, I'm trying to get the
>> new kids hooked back on these things.
>
> If I'm reading correctly, it looks like you are making 2D,
> mono-image viewmaster disks from users images.
>
> What if I have stereo-view pictures? Can those be turned into
> stereo-view viewmaster disks?
>
> -- Philip
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:04:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [MBZ] my kinda car
The local VW dealer has one in the show room, mostly restored. It's not for
sale, and I don't think they drive it.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> wrote:
>
>> We saw some of those "Things" when we were in Hawaii last winter. A good
> vehicle for that climate.
>
> Randy
>
>
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:09:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
Just hang a piece of foil up behind it...
Despite having internal antennas, most of these new "encapsulated" routers
often have fittings for external antennas.
You might also see what is available in the way of antennas for the endpoint.
I have gone that route with some success on desktop machines.
Dan
On Aug 30, 2013, at 7:54 PM, OK Don wrote:
> I wonder how you use a reflector with one of the new flat box WiFi MIMO
> routers with no external antennas?
> I'm thinking trial and error now --- a quarter wave length is about 1.2" --
>
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 19:11:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
Right, but you get interference patterns that cancel the signal in some
places, and boost it in others without properly placing the reflector -
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote:
> Just hang a piece of foil up behind it...
>
> Despite having internal antennas, most of these new "encapsulated" routers
> often have fittings for external antennas.
>
> You might also see what is available in the way of antennas for the
> endpoint. I have gone that route with some success on desktop machines.
>
> Dan
>
>
--
OK Don
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 19 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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From: l02tur...@comcast.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:25:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
Came across an article in Octane about this company doing "resto-mods"
on older MBs. Very impressive MBs!!
http://mechatronik.de/
Enjoy -
Larry
On 8/30/2013 9:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote:
> Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was in
> the shop. It was one of the 'Sport' models.
>
> That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned. Course most
> of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my career.
>
> The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not
> see 100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c:
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
>
>
> i guess it is heresy, but cars are soooo powerful and fast today
>
> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
> bucks for it
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
> <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Off with his head!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit
>> that
>>>> thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
>>>> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
>>>>> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway
>> if
>>>> you use only premium.
>>>>> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory
>>> specs
>>>> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end. It's
>> actually a
>>>> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
>>>> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top
>>> speed
>>>> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you
>>> can
>>>> push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you
>> do
>>>> (as in a couple runs).
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 10:02:14 +0930
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick 108 photos
Funny how when Klebby posts pictures, they get approved in a nano
second, us peasants sit there for days/weeks/years waiting.
Seriously though, my take is that a 108/9 is a car that is suited to an
enthusiast who really loves these cars and is willing to put the effort
into them.
Unless you get lucky and find a minter for cheap (grandma selling off
grandpas old car type of thing), there is not much money to be made.
Parts for these things are getting rarer and rarer, most bits on the car
are 40 years old and will need replacing sooner rather than later.
Looking at those pics, the dash is cracked, the seats are cracked, the
wood work is faded, the body is average and that's not even getting into
the mechanicals.
If the body was close to perfect on that car, I would say it would be a
worthwhile proposition, insofar that you don't have to spend money on it
and can focus on the interior and mechanicals.
Hendrik
who has a close to perfect body
On 31/08/13 08:16, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> One other thing too, even though some folks like the 6 cylinder better, I
> still think I would rather have a v8. I have had a couple of 4.5s none
> drivable tough and ended up selling them before fixing them. Even had a
> 300sel once.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> wrote:
>
>> Consider that you have a tendency to either flip stuff or sit on it for a
>> while. It's not going to appreciate in value, at least not for some time.
>> If you let it sit it's going to be problematic, as the fuel system won't
>> like it.
>>
>> I think you would be wise to pass. At least until you find me a nice finnie
>> like the one you bought cheap off of Toad.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>
>>> I think I am going to pass on it as I do not have any other 108 parts cars
>>> and no telling what I would be getting involved with. Going to look at a
>>> ran when parked a year ago 87 300d for $1k only a few miles away
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
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From: l02tur...@comcast.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:44:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
I had a slightly different epiphany - when i was doing 90in my 911 I
could see waaaaay in the distance a big Buick slowly pulling out in
front of me. I thought - "They have no idea how fast I am
approaching" as I got on the brakes and slowed dramatically. That was
the last time i drove in "Go to Jail Territory". It's just too
dangerous. People just don't expect a road rocket to be heading toward
them and the fast driver has _/all /_the responsibility to avoid the
accident. Many people can't even see a small sports car several hundred
yards in the distance much less estimate how fast they're approaching.
BTW, i know I was being irresponsible by driving so fast on a public
road and never drove that fast again...
BTW, a few years ago the speed limits in Montana and N. Dakota were not
enforced. I've even heard that people from Europe have brought their
fast cars over specifically to drive on those interstates because the
Autobahn was becoming so congested. That was on a program called
/Modern Marvels - The Autobahn/ and included a great snip of a SL
tumbling over and over from "high speed" then seeing the driver hop out
and walk to the hill next to the highway. They said the Germans built
cars that could survive and excel on the unlimited speed zones. It was
pretty impressive. I believe it's still on Youtube in several parts....
BTW, there wasn't much left of that SL!
Larryt
91 300D
On 8/30/2013 1:41 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> the problems today is the penalty. what used to get you a warning or maybe
> a $100 fine today gets your car impounding, the night in jail and a 4
> figure fine
>
> i remember the encounter with police that finally convinced me you can't
> drive fast anymore in the USA after decades of believing the driving time
> between fort lauderdale and naples is about an hour. it was about 3 years
> ago on I-85 in NC. i had been driving with another guy at about 120 but he
> turned off, so i slowed down to a comfortable cruising speed. about 5
> minutes later the blue lights came on behind me.
>
> "do you know why i pulled you over?"
> "yeah, you felt obliged to because of my speed"
> 'do you know how fast you were going?"
> "like 85ish. maybe closer to 90"
> "what?? why did you tell me that???"
> "well, i mean, we both know how fast i was going, so why play games about
> it?"
> "do you know what i'm supposed to do now?"
> "well, judging by your tone, i am unaware"
> "i'm supposed to impound your car and arrest you. then, after you get out
> of jail, you'll have to return in person to stand trial"
> "what???????????"
> "look, i'm writing you up for 79 in a 65. please be more careful in the
> future!"
>
> so i heeded his warning and no longer drive fast. in fact, i mostly just
> ride a bicycle nowadays
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Depends on where you are. Head north of Bangor, Maine on I95 and the speed
>> limit is 75mph, everybody is cruising at 85mph +
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:30:53 -0400
>> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> i guess it is heresy, but cars are soooo powerful and fast today
>>
>> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
>> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
>> bucks for it
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:48:19 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
Speaking of little cars, every time I see a MB "Smart Car" I think,
Geez, I'd hate to be in that thing when I was involved in a wreck!
They look like they'd roll up like aluminum foil.. but hopefully I'm
wrong - right?
LarryT
On 8/30/2013 3:04 PM, clay wrote:
> I am using my mothers Corolla while she is out of town. I hate that car. It
> is buzzy and feels like it is made of tinfoil and chicken wire. You feel
> every ripple in the road and get whiplash when you strike an errant pebble.
> I drove it to Montana and back a few years ago. That was a mind rending
> experience. Eight plus hours of drone and skiffle about the roadway while
> your back and all ached from the poor support.
>
> IT does get wonderful mileage though
>
> clay
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote:
>
>> Rented a Toyota Corolla the other day for a trip while the wife's car was in
>> the shop. It was one of the 'Sport' models.
>>
>> That thing was a rocketship compared to any older MB I've owned. Course
>> most of my stuff was diesels, but did have a coupla M110 engines in my
>> career.
>>
>> The little nippon car handled like it was on rails, and although it did not
>> see 100 mph, it did see 40 mpg with great flair (c:
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 11:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108
>>
>>
>> i guess it is heresy, but cars are soooo powerful and fast today
>>
>> which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past.
>> gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100
>> bucks for it
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
>> <astrasfo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Off with his head!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, <dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit
>>> that
>>>>> thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick <psf...@earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears
>>>>> instead of 3.88, uses less fuel.
>>>>>> I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway
>>> if
>>>>> you use only premium.
>>>>>> No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory
>>>> specs
>>>>> are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the "fast" end. It's
>>> actually a
>>>>> pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's
>>>>> necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top
>>>> speed
>>>>> is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you
>>>> can
>>>>> push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you
>>> do
>>>>> (as in a couple runs).
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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